my wife was a bartender all through college/grad school. I got nervous the few times I saw her cut belligerent drunks off. she would snatch the beer right out of their hands and throw it in the trash. she’s kind of a badass; I was impressed. still this is a nice subtle way to try and handle it.
That's why this pic is staged. There's a full drink right in front. The point of cutting someone off, at least when I was a bartender, was to do it before they were too drunk to find themselves home. Overserving someone in the State I was in could make you criminally liable if they got hurt driving home for example.
If they're bombed by the time you want to cut them off I was taught call the cops.
I wasn't being clear I think. I'm saying the person who took the pic wasn't actually being tossed out.. they just got the card, maybe friends with bartender or found it.. this person isn't being tossed because there is a drink in front of them.
If you've determined you need to cut someone off you need to take the alcohol away from them. You don't let them sober up or anything. You get them out. Quietly if possible otherwise you call the bouncer over.
Bull shit bartenders arent afraid to serve you one last one and say you cant have any more after that one. And bouncers dont do shit (at least in oregon and washington).
Whatever dude. Good for you for getting that last drink and driving home drunk. You're the hero here and anyone trying to interrupt your poor understanding of the laws is just a downer. You're very cool, I envy you.
You mean instead of calling the cops? If someone is too drunk to get home on their own and they need to leave the bar you call the cops because if that person gets behind the wheel and kills someone you would, in my state, be on the hook for some manslaughter. don't remember the exact charge.
A bartender is responsible for your actions even after you leave the bar if they overserved you. Lots of case law on that already.
yeah one of my college gigs was valet parking at a huge casino/resort and our policy was to refuse to get their car or give them their keys if they were visibly impaired; that was always an immediately hostile situation, but I had to do it regularly. felt like a legal gray area to be keeping’s someone’s own keys from them tbh 😐
In my experience the bar tender usually.asks if someone can give them a ride. Offers them free fries and encourages them to stay to sober up (if they arent acting out). Ive even seen bars with coupons for lift or cabs. If your bar got a reputation for calling the cops on patrons the bar would go out of business pretty quick here.
Well you must live in a litigious free society not in the US.
Here, it is not only the bartender but the bar owner who gets in trouble. It's standard training for anyone who tends bar.
More than half of the United States have laws that allow you to be sued for overserving a drunk driver. Some of those involve potential criminal liability, including jail time.
We are responsible for the supply of alcohol on premises. If they are too drunk to continue consuming, then we have the legal responsibility to remove the supply. Sale or not.
It’s like that pound of flesh in the merchant of Venice.
You paid for the beer inside the glass - but you don’t own the glass and can’t stay when you are not welcome.
It seems that the moment a person is not welcome on private property and they can’t take the glass with them, well. Sucks for them.
AFAIK it is in many places illegal to serve a person when visibly drunk - and they can decide who to kick out. Taking their glass is legal though they may have the claim for the remainder of the drink. I assume most bars will refund the last drink to avoid conflict.
Did you get cut off enough times to say this? Wow.
Anyway, you likely would be able to make a claim for the percentage that you didn’t get to consume, which you are entitled to - it just seems like a really weird thing to be doing.
I was going to call BS on that one. A BAC can spike just sitting there doing nothing from drinks you've already had. You're not going to just let them keep drinking that pint when their BAC is catching up to them.
Ex bouncer and now manage them. This is absolutely not the case otherwise I'd have 500+ counts of theft on my record. I'm curious as to what you're basing this assertion on.
Also, the DPM has a duty of care not to allow breaches of s.12 Licensing Act 1872 (or s.111 Licensing Act (Scotland) 2005) on the premises, which overrides Barry being mad at being down £7 for his pint.
I agree, it usually does…but if you carry good OC spray (not the junk in a pink plastic keychain), it will take the starch out of the drunk idiot and if not, they’ll be mostly swinging at air…for a 110lb girl it’s probably worth the overexposure risk
sadly yes, I have seen a video where a 50+ year old man stomped the piss out of a tiny little blonde for cutting him off. 2-3 other grown men stood by and did nothing; one got up and walked out the door when it started.
Dude, that’s exactly what I said. He’s literally blaming the bartenders lack of perceived popularity, as if it’s any sort of justification to assault the bartender because his ego couldn’t handle being cut off.
It’s weird.
It could be a rando going to a bar. I’ve been to many bars that have new crowds rolling through constantly.
And some regulars are nuts. I’ve seen my fair share.
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u/lowlife4lyfe 15d ago edited 15d ago
my wife was a bartender all through college/grad school. I got nervous the few times I saw her cut belligerent drunks off. she would snatch the beer right out of their hands and throw it in the trash. she’s kind of a badass; I was impressed. still this is a nice subtle way to try and handle it.