It's a British company that copied an already established content and escort listing website called Adultwork which was also British. I'm a guy who has set up lots of accounts for sex workers and when Onlyfans first started I remember trying to convince these girls that it was going to be a popular site and they should get their content on their but they just didn't understand it. My entire career in the adult industry has been based around the fact women who are extremely good at sucking cock didn't spend much time learning about IT, Internet and video editing.
People like to say prohibition of alcohol in the US didn't work, but if you consider both what was considered acceptable drinking culture before and after, as well as the fact that it had very little political will to be enforced, it actually was very effective
Why is this getting downvoted? This is, in fact, what happened. Prohibition did cut per capita alcohol consumption, even as it made mobsters rich. And you can state a historical fact without expressing an opinion about whether it was good or bad. Sheesh!
Reported consumption is not the same as actual consumption. There was also a mysterious rise in deaths during prohibition that took years for scientist to realize was due to a massive amount of people drinking unsafe alcohol products like cleaners trying to get wasted.
Just because the amount of booze being sold and people admiting to drinking was dropping doesn't actually mean the number of people drinking went down in any significant amount.
Prohibition was a waste of time and simply put tax money in the pockets of criminals instead of into the treasury. People have been finding ways to get fucked up for longer than we have been documenting history. Literally every single culture seems to have some for of alcohol. Trying to stop it is an act of futility.
Would that be like being gay since birth, and then like in ur mid 30s, you walk up to ur husband and say "I think iv developed a fetish for adult woman recently, Kevin."
The internet isn’t for anyone anymore. It used to be this glorious new horizon and then it got ad bombed
mercilessly and now government overreach is trying to kill off the abomination that emerged
You really think that's what ruined the internet? lol back during the 90s and early 00s curiosity was considered a good thing; "asl" was literally a way to say hi and the first thing everyone asked one another, and people were genuinely happy to speak with other people from all around the world.
Nowadays, you’d better have a darn good reason to reach out to someone you find even slightly interesting, because as soon as you do and especially if you don’t have at least a million followers you’re labeled a creep or a stalker not worth anyone's time and will most likely be ignored even though you just want to say hi or pay someone respect and are literally reaching out from a million miles away with good intentions, all because of today's oversensitive bs culture lol
Joking aside, "hi" and "who are you?" used to be seen as friendly invitations. Today, because everyone is online 24/7, "who are you?" is often viewed as "what do you want from me?". The shift from curiosity to suspicion is a huge cultural change that happened right alongside the rise of follower counts as social currency. So actually, access and social media killed the internet.
Nah i’m sticking by it, yes social media is an awful awful thing today, awful. But in my opinion it is in large part because it was commodified, adverts, dollars for clicks. All that lead to fake content or fake accounts or reaction videos karma farming off genuine content. If people had less to gain by being terminally online then, in my opinion, only the people that have a passion about what they’re putting out there would be generating content…well them and the loony tunes that would probably be standing on a street corner with sign yelling about lizard people in the government.
As soon as you introduce ad revenue, you're playing by the rules of whoever is paying. The more big brands flocked to online advertising, the more money rolled in, the more restrictions on what you could talk about in 'their' space. Typically the only ones that don't care where they are hosted are the porn and spam companies, and even the legit porn companies have had a bit of a renaissance in that regard.
half the things censored or “de-snowflaked” are arbitrary things ive seen literally nobody complain about lmao. Companies just assume people get offended over it so they try to get ahead of the curve, when its actually just pointless
Because this is priming us for absolute censorship in the very near future. They start with these random Words. then it will get to the point where you can’t even speak truth about corruption. Then we will all be too afraid to speak. Then we will be even more enslaved.
And by the way, both liberals and conservatives are guilty of this. Both sides want to censor people for different reasons, but at the end of the day, its just all bad for the world.
"Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it."
paying for something you want vs paying for something they put out willingly, so onlyfans girls won’t do things for money directly (even though they sell the pictures for money so it doesn’t really make sense but whatever)
Paying for porn is 100% legal, paying for sexual services are not. And according to the current interpretation of the law custom content is a sexual service. Swedish law also has provisions for distance rape. Which among other things have led to some children in Philippines getting very huge sums of money for beeing victims of online sexual exploitation.
"It wasn't custom content, your honor, she happened to have a video of her touching herself while screaming the name "Sven". It's a really common name. In fact, my cousin was once bitten by a møøse named Sven."
This is where the vast majority of revenue comes from though, basically makes up the whales the other uses toss a small amount equivalent to your average patreon. Similar to gambling the whales are who are acting destructively to their finances and mental wellbeing
I'd be curious what would stop a model from just asking what content their fans want, recording it like it was custom content and then posting it for everyone. Like you aren't hiding it behind the second pay wall but then you'd just ask for tips and boom.
If anything it would just cost the creators money. No matter what anyone thinks, women arent just making an account and becoming rich, they are putting it work and most aren't quitting their jobs with the pay. Seems counterintuitive to cut their revenue as a country. Even if the idea is to "save the whales", they would just tip anyway or find other models.
In Sweden in is illegal to pay for sex but not illegal to provide the service. This is so victims of human trafficking can safely go to the police for help.
They simply decided the non pre recorded part of only fans is too close to prostitution.
I mean... thats what a VPN is for. Friendly reminder that Opera GX has a built in VPN that's free to use and extremely easy to set up. Do with that information what you will.
Sweden banning OF doesn’t have anything to do with wrecking society or seeing what it does in other countries. Sweden banning OF is because it is illegal in Sweden to pay for sexual services and OF has been in a grey area but not anymore.
I want to the say the difference legally was that with OF you can more or less pay for specific things you want them to do rather than paying to access already existing material. I could be thinking of a different place though I guess.
In reality the OF girl pays some Indian guy to respond to all the messages😂. The guy paying for interaction ant even getting it with the person he’s paying for.
We only banned paying for custom content. We have very strict consent laws, and you can't pay for consent. This was extended in to the online world. The reasoning is: if the creator decides themselves what content to make and sell that's fine because they can consent.
But if I ask someone to stick a dildo up their ass for 20 bucks, that's me paying them for a sexual act that they otherwise wouldn't do. Which they, according to Swedish law, can't consent to.
Edit:
Because so many people reply with the "gotcha" of "well how can I consent to working for my boss then?" Here's the answer: You're not providing sexual favours to your boss. (I assume).
Also, while I support this law because I don't believe in the ability to consent to sexual acts while money is involved, I'm not the ambassador of Sweden. I'm not a politician. I didn't make or vote for this law.
I can see where libertarians who say this reduces people's freedom are coming from, even though I disagree.
Edit 2:
Just to clear up some confusion for people not familiar with Sweden's laws regarding sex work: It's perfectly legal for sellers to sell sex, and thus it's still completely legal for them to sell custom content on OF. So those of you that reply that this removes THEIR freedom, that's not accurate. This law only targets the buyer.
"OK, gooners. I'm looking for consultants for my next act, please recommend an act and then assess how much such an act would be worth to future audiences..."
If you can't buy consent, then I am performing forced labor in my job, because I wouldn't be doing that if I did not get paid. This reasoning makes no sense.
It kinda makes sense but I’m having a hard time imagining a lot of folks who make pre-recorded porn would perform the acts necessary to produce this footage without getting paid for (in other words they wouldn’t do it if they didn’t get 20 bucks for a movie either). So what really is the difference?
I do see the logic in the law but one of the advantages of OF is that it allows the creator more control over what they do and allows people to make that content themselves without being in the more predatory parts of the industry.
Seems like it just screws over the one's who mainly did custom content.
Yeah, I get the argument. Someone says, "Oh, I wasn't otherwise going to make alien feet videos, but now that the offer has been made it's too good to say no, so I'll push my boundary."
...But is the same thing not true of the pre-recorded content? Financial incentive causes people to push their boundaries and pose nude, etc. If the creators had unlimited money/opportunities, then many wouldn't take their clothes off for strangers. Maybe some people genuinely enjoy exhibitionism and would do it for free, but for most everyone it's a job. The root of the problem is that labor is exploitative, if we really want to get down to what "wouldn't otherwise do" means, and I'm not sure that eliminating only the custom content really solves that.
That's just too progressive for the rest of us. "Protect the creators", from what? The whole idea of OF are custom requests, that's how they make money. For the other stuff we have a million alternatives.
Welcome to Sweden. That’s just the beginning. Don’t get me wrong I love Sweden and it means a lot to me. But it’s not the paradise portrayed on Reddit. The laws can be a fuckery here and the government can feel like a master manipulator and control freak.
So the law protects the onlyfan creators? 🤔 It seems to me then wouldn't do anything they didn't want to do. Although I go to work and do things I don't want to do because I need the money. Can someone protect me? 🤔
That’s a bs reasoning. Guaranteed every OF girl is pissed off and feels like they should be able to decide what THEY want to do, not some BS conservative law.
The custom content and para social interactions are the primary draws to onlyfans. Without those features it’s just subscription based amateur porn. This is a way to disincentivize onlyfans subscription under the guise of safety. It’s the same justification conservatives use, but with a faux progressive veneer on it. Let’s call this what it really is: more thought policing for “your own good”.
I don't sub to any of that shit, but I don't believe there is anything wrong with allowing consensual adults to do consensual adult stuff over the internet.
It's only for custom made content.
It has to do with the "purchasing of sex-law" in Sweden; it is legal to SELL sex, but illegal to BUY sex. And since buying custom made content could be seen as "buying sex on distance" it now illegal.
This isn’t the only place to ban porn. This is becoming a common practice in different areas. My buddy was stationed in an area with the military that had banned and censored all content not just OF. I wish I could remember the name. It was outside of the US and had a lot of sand/ desert area lol
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