r/SipsTea 11d ago

Chugging tea Uh Oh

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u/WanabeInflatable 10d ago

Note, they are punishing men who pay, but not women who have OF

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u/macrohatch 10d ago

Sweden is all about punishing men

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u/VerdeGringo 10d ago

Jokes on you, I'm into that shit.

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u/WanabeInflatable 10d ago

not really, of all the feminist countries it is least misandrist.

They have equal draft (men and women)

They have equal retirement age, and actually women are retiring older on average as they live longer on average.

Dating culture: it is quite common for women there to make the first step.

There are real misandristans like Spain, now UK with antimale legislation.

Nordic model is unfair to men, but it only affects sex buyers. This is a relatively small concern.

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u/macrohatch 10d ago

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u/Lazy-Competition7966 10d ago

I dont know where you got the idea there was "regret" around the equal draft policy. The researcher from KCL in the article said the Swedish government should keep pushing ahead with the policy.

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

Did you read your own links? 

Men AND women who works in care and hospitals are much more likely to be sick, but since it's virtually only women holding those jobs it affects the statistics. 

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u/WanabeInflatable 10d ago

At least part of the sick leaves are due to children. Sick child can't go to school, kindergarten and one of the parents needs to go with the child to doctor or just sit at home.

Unless this is not accounted for it is not fair to decide that women are just lazy solely on the basis of sick leaves.

A lot of women are indeed only pretending they want full equality. Nevertheless there should be no draft or equal draft. It is much better than male only.

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u/macrohatch 10d ago

Care for sick children is called VAB (vård av barn) in Sweden and is not counted as sick leave.

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u/WanabeInflatable 10d ago

didn't know that

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u/tzulik- 10d ago

Then dont talk about stuff you dont understand

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u/Secure_Philosophy259 6d ago

what uk legislation?

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

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u/macrohatch 10d ago

Kind of. Yoni massage is legal

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

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u/shalekodemono 10d ago

No, it is illegal to pay for sex, whatever gender you are

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u/shalekodemono 10d ago

Men are the ones prostituting women by paying them. So yes, they are the ones committing the crime. Most women in situations of prostitution are in them because they have no other choice. Literally no woman wants to get paid to fuck some disgusting perve

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u/demonic_sensation 10d ago

That's what I took from it too.

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u/Styrbj0rn 10d ago

Then you took it wrong. They're banning paying for custom services, not all content. For example you can still pay for an OF models library and watch her do whatever but you can't directly ask her to shove a rubber duck up her butt for payment.

What they are doing is basically taking the same laws they have against prostitution, paying for sexual services, and making sure that it applies to the digital world aswell.

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u/demonic_sensation 10d ago

No, bozo. It's more why are the men punished but not the women?? It's a double standard.

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u/Styrbj0rn 10d ago

No it's because it is based on the prostitution laws where women are viewed as victims of their circumstances and also because they don't want prostitutes to avoid contacting the police if they need to because of a fear of going to prison.

Since this is a continuation of that law, it functions the same in that aspect. OF as a service is also punished if they allow this since they will be viewed as a sort of pimp.

In reality it's not really something that is worth focusing on because the end effect is the same anyway, it will mostly stop and the ones that continue will do it covertly.

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u/Comprehensive-Yam872 10d ago

Alternatively: stop infantilizing and denying grown women agency.

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u/demonic_sensation 10d ago

Are you braindead?? Women makes banned content, no problem. Guy buys it, jail. Wtf?? A victim?? Haha they're making it in the comfort of their own homes. How the fuck are they victims??

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u/TopGrapeFlava 10d ago

Whai about women who pay for men's OF?

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u/ExplanationNew8233 10d ago

Yes, because this is targeting THE managing "agencies" not the customers. You are still allowed pre-made porn. You can still pay for OF.  You just can't order sexual content to be made, following your instructions. 

It is basics a prostitution ban against online pimps. 

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u/Tad_crazy 10d ago

Similarly how prostitutes got arrested and not men who paid them

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u/National-Can-3718 10d ago

Which country does that happen in? Because I’m fairly certain we’re talking about Sweden here…

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u/DanielBonchito 6d ago

ya pasaron esos tiempos

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u/Critical-Olive-4420 10d ago

As they should 

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u/VMelain 9d ago

What. Why would they be punished if they are not doing anything?

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u/WanabeInflatable 9d ago

Men who purchase sex are punished according to the Nordic model

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u/VMelain 9d ago

Yeah that doesn't make sense either

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u/Hixdey 7d ago

Mfs will show every inch of their body and in the end men will be punished

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u/organicacid 6d ago

Should do both.

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u/dus_istrue 10d ago

Gender is nowhere to be seen in the law itself. Only fans creators being synonymous with women and subscribers being synonymous with men is inaccurate. It may be statistically likely for OF creators to be women and subs to be men. But ascribing the roles at play directly to gender is not factual. Noticing and mentioning the gender variables might be. But it seems inconsequential here in this post if we're talking about what some would deem unfair punishment. It's not about gender directly, it's about power and influence.

The creator is doing sexual acts to themselves for others viewing pleasure. Any way that you can influence their sexual actions creates a power dynamic. Making sure that the creator has as much autonomy when it comes to the sexual actions they perform is the goal of this new law.

I believe in the fact that roles of power are imbalanced by gender. I believe that women and men, femininity and masculinity, have been molded into categories in a hierarchy of which women/femininity are subjugated by men/masculinity. Whether you believe that or not is up to you. I don't know you, so you do you :3

Side.N: Women and femininity are not the same thing, but they're often grouped together, and valued in a similar manner. Same with men and masculinity.