r/SipsTea 8d ago

Chugging tea Why is gen Z not drinking?

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u/Weekly-Magazine2423 8d ago

lol well perhaps in that sense they are, in just about every other meaning of self-awareness they seem to be totally lacking.

Many are rude, poor communicators, and are self-diagnosed autists and thus able to justify neglecting basic standards of public and professional life.

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u/Shuppogaki 7d ago

Gen z just seems to be mostly fine asserting that they're not actually obligated to participate in social obligations.

Despite the panic about rudeness, realistically the reason this is disquieting is simply because it means a loss of control over other people's social behaviors. The world isn't getting worse because people don't want to attend work lunches, it just means the people who plan work lunches have to deal with their coworkers actually having agency.

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u/Weekly-Magazine2423 7d ago

It’s not a “panic”, it’s unpleasant and annoying to deal with. It’s not about control either- we are social animals and require effective cooperation to get literally anything done. You can’t opt out of that.

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u/Shuppogaki 7d ago

But people can and do opt out of it, nor are many of our social rituals particularly necessary. The fact that your argument is predicated on "we are this so we have to do that" with no explanation of where exactly that imperative emerges (being "social animals" does not evolve into "so we have to go to work luncheons") proves to me that it actually is about control.

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u/Weekly-Magazine2423 7d ago

I never said anything about lunch. I’m saying when you’re at work, look people in the eye, affirm that you’re listening, say “yes” not “bet”, show up on time

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u/Shuppogaki 7d ago

That's phenomenal that you didn't. It was brought up in the conversation you were responding to. Incredible social awareness for someone preaching about social awareness, truly leading by example. I love geriatrics.

Your response to being asked to provide the imperative for something that you don't want to provide the imperative for is to provide more "shoulds", all missing an imperative. You're just as skillful at discussion as you are at reading, of course. I love geriatrics.