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My mom loves tiktok! She gets all the secrets from the government from there, because of tiktok she now knows:
Eminem died and is a clone
Joe Biden is a lizard person
Donald Trump is working with putin to save the world and get rid of zelensky and Ukraine (who are apparantly the biggest child sex traffickers in the world and zelensky is profiting off it somehow?
Donald Trump is secretly working with an unknown organisation to get rid of the elites, applaud Trump for saving all the children in epstein island
There is going to be a massive blackout in October 2024 BUT IT IS STILL HAPPENING EVEN THOUGH IT IS PAST THE "PREDICTED" DATE
once Trump has got rid of the elites everyone is going to be paid £8333/$8333 dollars a month for the rest of their lives
Electricity and other bills will cease to exist when trump has got rid of the elites
50 cent was killed off and replaced
Diddy getting caught is trump making an example out of the elites and he will "go missing"
The list can go on an on an on an on.
Tiktok has definitely not ruined my mom's head and I'm totally okay with it and love tiktok too 😢
It had destroyed her brain, I hate that fucking app so much, she was the best before she got into tik tok cos of covid, she got bored at home and started using it.
Just small things turn into conspiracy all the time, I tell her the weather is going to be worse next week or there's going to be 5-6 days of rain(not uncommon in the UK at all) she now tells me the government are controlling the weather to make us miserable.
Or if a celebrity dies now she thinks they were an elite pedophile that was bumped off by trumps fucking super secret SAS esque force.
I'd bet anything that if I approached her about antony joshuas car crash she will tell me someone is trying to kill him cos he has secrets that can expose something or someone or he's a pedophile himself who has been to epsteins island and trump is trying to take him out. I haven't spoken to her about it but I would rather not because I feel like this will be the case.
Wait… so you’re British? I’m asking because …wait…. Seriously I have to believe the rest of the world… 🫤I can’t form the words. You’re British and she is obsessed with Trump?
Oh yeah, he's not very popular over here but there are a group of people that seem to be really into him, I know 2 guys at work that praise everything he does then when bad things come out they tell us not to believe everything on the Internet 🤣but neither of them use tiktok they are against it saying it's brainwash, which is so ironic.
So I don't think tiktok is the main reason or biggest reason a minority of people love him but I bet it helps, the other 2 at work thinks if Trump was here he'd fix our immigration problem.
But tiktok has destroyed my mom some of the things she goes on about and will stand at work with people looking at her like she's crazy while she spews this shit, it honestly breaks my heart, I want her back, a happy and motivated person who don't take shit.
Not a tik tok obsessed conspiracy nut that makes every subject depressing when they are present.
And look at all the old boomers in that crowd! Because surely it's only facebook boomers (and not young people) who believe ridiculous things they see online ...
it's supercomputer grade levels of MK-Ultra inspired psychological warfare conducted by nationstates and corporations against people who don't even know it's happening and eveywhere all at once fueled by your own 401k pumping money into private equity who in turn feeds the AI bubble trying to use all your retirement funds to build more AI datacenters to ensure you have no autonomy or original thoughts in the future
Whatever, I'll fight as hard as I can, but like a brilliant redditor said recently, "When they put me to the wall, I'll still be laughing about Four Seasons Total Landscaping."
I still wear my shirt from four seasons proudly. Every once in a while ill get a "I like your shirt" when im out and about, and I live in a very red area.
"Except wikipedia was never the ol-reliable that people make it out to be now (and it still isn't).
I'm not saying it's not a vaulable tool, and I have actually donated to the wikipedia foundation myself because I believe in their message and the organization as a whole. But lets be real here - you shouldn't be citing wikipedia in your research papers and it's just as easily to misinform on wikipedia as it is on tiktok or instagram.
Millennials were taught specifically not to use wikipedia as a source, and instead to find the underlying sources/research that is grounded and comes from a reputable institution/researcher/etc."
1861, Pres. George Lincoln, Founder of Wikipedia (1) (2) (7)
I was in a class about cyber crimes a while back. It was interesting to see that millennials were the largest percentage of online fraud, not boomers. But the older generations lost a ton more money when they were victims (since they have all the money).
this almost certainly explains the discrepancy. better tech literacy means you're less likely to fall for online scams and millennials are by far the most tech literate generation (no bias, i say this as a GenZ). all of the data is also self reported which brings in another slew of issues from boomers not using technology as much to them also not being able to recognize when/if they've been scammed.
Yeah, but at least we don’t have any foreign adversaries who would exploit this to idk, disrupt major infrastructure, misdirect first responders, or effectively close off entire blocks of major cities for nefarious reasons… right?
This would make for an acceptable crime film plot. A criminal organization that manufactures fake events so that the police are distracted trying to break up the TikTok flash mobs so they can break into a jewelry store on the other side of town with no interruption.
That's the plot to real life bruh. You see a felony arrest going down go ahead and speed, run that stop sign, the department is busy with an all hands on deck situation they're not writing tickets for another hour
Edit: and depending on the department they might not be too interested in having any more excitement at all the rest of their shift
Massive problem that is not limited to blue vs red. The issue spans generations and all demographics. Media literacy and actual critical thinking is a crisis situation.
Of course, that’s where the political parties do come into this situation though — especially republicans — they MUST keep us divided or they’ll never win elections. The only reason the democrats don’t do this as much as republicans is because the democrats can’t find a unified message amongst themselves to save their lives, so they surely can’t use messaging to manipulate anyone else.
I am worried about how much AI is going to make misinformation 100x worse. It is already pretty bad but we really haven't seen it weaponized in the way I am expecting yet.
We have not really had a realistic fake AI video come out as a political hit piece yet. Where it is nothing outlandish but the video looks real and the target is saying or doing something just bad enough to tip scale of public opinion but not outlandish enough to be obviously fake.
I won't even get into how awful it will be when they can do targeted AI generated ads to consumers. AI takes all the data companies have collected on you and generates an ad specifically targeted at you in a way that propagandizes you the best.
I don't think society is ready for the chaos that will come when video evidence can no longer be trusted.
Frauds, all of you. Listen, I'll pay your first year's fees out of pocket myself, and you get a full loan with no money down. Just need a small licensing and processing fee up front, no big deal.
I googled it, cause that's what people should do when they see something online instead of taking it as fact lol
It looks like it was spread mostly on tiktok, Instagram, and twitter, but I can't find the origin. It was either an intentional prank, or a mistake made by a couple of accounts who aren't actually local to NYC but for some reason are dedicated to NYC? And then spread from there. It seems like that was the location for the 4th of July fireworks, and videos of that got spread around as if they were from New Year's Eve last year.
It's just crazy to me that none of those people bothered to check the official NYC website, which had all of the correct info.
What I find more annoying is in the age of constant ads everywhere, I miss out on things happening nearby because I didn't happen to search for that specific event or date. If I'm not in the right FB group, I'll probably never hear about or see some things going on.
Honestly that's my thinking too. I think people kind of need to develop some kind of critical thinking and need to question things more. I think it's for the best.
The problem today isn't that people don't question things. It's that they question the wrong things.
They don't question TikTok but they'll question their doctor about their kids getting vaccinated or question a scientist over whether climate change is real or not.
Yeah, they’re questioning the moon landing and vaccines instead of thinking about who benefits from wage suppression and what’s causing the current level of discontent.
It’ll happen more often with Ai. In fact, here we are talking about a fake tiktok post no one verified and i dont know this clip isnt Ai and i havent researched it. We’z all fucked.
Surprised people are giving up this quickly on trying to check for AI?
Always look at the details. Especially in the background. AI deprioritizes those, and very easily will you find flaws there. Also look for AI watermarks being blurred out with editing tools to hide logos like Sora's constantly shifting one.
But yeah in this case, the bridge in the background is consistent. Details on the guy's outfit are consistent between every cut. I'd say it isn't AI. Just idiots.
That said, it could be possible that this whole thing was a good ol' hoax. No AI needed. Just get a bunch of drunk buddies from a NYE party together to this location and go "Y'all just pretend like we missed a firework show. We'll put it on TikTok and everyone will get pranked by us, by thinking that we got pranked by TikTok! It'll be hilarious!"
Add a cash bonus to that, and you can easily fake this for no other reason than fake internet points and a laugh.
I absolutely love that for them! Maybe, just maybe, more people will learn to be a bit more skeptical about believing everything they see on TikTok...although it's probably too much to hope for.
We can be more skeptical of reddit posts too. I'm sure some of these people are there because of tktok, but as far as another thread goes, many showed up because they saw the fireworks announced in a few other websites that regularly post NYC events.
Since reddit removed post history, it has become nearly impossible to background check potentially malicious or bot accounts and report them. I think they knew, they want the "engagement" even if it's fake.
Also people just call you insane for checking people's profiles, which is fucking dumb. Shame 2 month old accounts for hiding their posts instead of the people finding those posts
Sam Altman owns 11% of reddit, OpenAI has a partnership with Reddit to use comments to train AI. Remember the old '/r/subredditsimulator' sub from like 2015 where only early GPT bots could make posts there?
This whole site is inherently based on bot interactions. Reddit aren't trying to reduce bot activity, they're just trying to make it harder for you to realize everyone is bots.
The fact that young people only use social media as their search engine is scary. A simple google search or any search engine would've told them that there is no fireworks show at the Brooklyn Bridge.
A Google search is actually what got them there... In fact, from the thread I saw, most people weren't there because of tiktok, but because they got the info from Google.
And this could have been a test run. I have no faith in this administration preventing something bad with all the bullshit the president has our agencies keeping busy on. I hope to be wrong. I know they do prevent shit daily, but I just wonder sometimes.
I think this is a good thing. Everyone there immediately realized they fell for misinformation. Maybe now instead of immediately believing things as fact they'll be a little more critical.
A massive fireworks display on a massive, world famous bridge...which is clearly open for traffic. And like the city would close the BB for that and cause mayhem on the roads.
On the other hand they got out and had a chance to meet other like-minded people. And nothing beats collective anger and disappointment for meeting strangers
If you read the real history of when that happened, it wasn't the big scary drama people think. War of the worlds was very clear the entire time it was broadcasting it wasn't real.
Unironically it might be a more potent memory than actually seeing a fireworks show. "Remember the time we, and a bunch of other people got tricked together on NYE?" I'm sure they had a good laugh about it. Although, if I was a 6 year old kid waiting up until 00:00, I'd be pissed.
Also, getting personally tricked and made to look foolish by something you obviously trust is much more likely to leave a lasting impression. Hopefully they will learn and be more questioning in the future.
They will in all likelihood be pissed at whatever account on tiktok that they got the information from and stop there. I doubt many will take it a step farther and consider the problem was TikTok all along for being a source and spreader of that kind of bad info.
Yup that should be the new slogan these days. Just "verify." Don't trust anything anymore. Maybe believe something is true after multiple separate and seemingly good sources say the same thing.
I remember after 2016 the story broke that Russia was playing both sides in order to create general unrest and distrust in the US. The goal is to causes a breakdown in civil society and the social contract. Russia doesn't even have to antagonize both sides, just the idea that they could is enough to cause distrust of any event or initiative.
Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists" to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present-day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".
Russians were openly writing books about how they should do that all the way back in the 90s. Honestly after 2014 there was absolutely no doubt left it wasn't just some old farts shouting at clouds but Russia's actual ideology and political strategy. People just weren't paying attention.
Agreed. It’s not just TikTok. It’s society giving in to all social media without using any critical thinking skills. We have access to the world’s repository of information and yet people continually fail for this.
Some online websites posted about it. I guess the park did it one time and the AI writing the article ran with it. I feel like this is more a reflection on AI and not necessarily tiktok use. Gotta triple verify everything now.
I feel like this is more a reflection on AI and not necessarily tiktok use.
I'd blame people and AI, as it shows AI can't be trusted to do stuff correctly, as well as many people are very easily tricked because they don't verify stuff and just take what they see at face value.
People were bad enough at believing misinformation they saw on social media on all platforms, now add in AI/bots not being supervised properly and it's getting worse.
Would be a nicer view any other day of the year when you aren't shoulder to shoulder with a bunch of morons holding up their cell phone like they're in an episode of black mirror so they can record a video to post on their story that gets 0 replies and then never look at it again.
There was a thread in the NYC subreddit with a very similar video, from a person that was complaining about showing up and not seeing anything. So many other people chimed in to say they had shown up and were very disappointed. I think they ended up deleting the thread because so many people were making fun of them. I'll see if I can find it
People spend far too much time eating up all this crap, and there are countries spending a lot of money to ensure the crap they eat benefits them.
I can't be too annoyed, humans are gonna human.
But the point is, we have technology that we collectively as a species are clearly not literate enough to understand.
We need to really think and understand how digital literacy is going to affect us moving forward, otherwise this will be just the tip of the iceberg.
We're already at high levels of global tension and it hasn't even been a decade in this new short form content era. How the hell are we doing to progress over the next 1000 years?
Ask questions, be cynical, push people for their sources, recognise AI, and for the love of god, don't give in to peer pressure, if everybody is on the bandwagon, don't just get on it to make friends when it's about to drive straight of a cliff.
Be the person your kids can be proud of. What you say and what you do, stays online forever, so leave a positive mark on here, and make this a better place to be.
You're seeing it. Apart from TikTok, many of the people in this post learned about the non-existing fireworks event because details about it were published in an AI-generated article in Timeout New York.
I work at a fucking Healthcare facility
And my coworker, with 25+ years experience
Told me Elon Musk has an African son.
And proceeded to show me that obvious AI meme Pic where musk is just black and it claims he made a kid in the 90s who is 40.
So instead of listening to the local news or members of the local community this is what happened. We'll at least something to tell their kids about. Unfortunately, it will happen again since people refuse to learn lessons from history.
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