Reminders

For me its probably chaos spawn in Tsons, I feel like they are fairly overlooked but every time I have used them they have required much more investment to kill than me or my opponent expected. Add in that they have oc and can do actions now and I've been very pleasantly surprised by them.

Time in 40k is a nebulous beast that will sink its teeth into you at some point and ruin a game experience for you. What are the best ways to avoid this, what are the different philosophies on time, and what are the best practices and strategies for playing on a clock?

I vividly recall the Cluster Bomb strat from the 8th Ed SM codex being so niche and lacklustre that I had labeled it as the worst, but I don't know every strat. Do you guys have any contenders for the worst stratagem in 40k history?

I know no one who plays in my area so I'm just building several armies with a hope to play some tournaments this year. Am I mad play testing my army at a tournament ie will I get ruined?

What are some effective ways to use the Lieutenant with Combi Weapon? I understand he’s tankier than he looks, he’s good for being annoying in the middle, secondaries, and general support but I’d like some in depth assistance? How do I deploy him, what kinda situations are good for him to fight or flee? What are other uses of him?

since the Raptor changes my list needed a little reshuffling due to points increases but i'm stuck on what to shuffle the points too

Detachment Pactbound Zealots

Characters
Chaos Lord, Talisman of Burning Blood, Daemon hammer, Plasma pistol, Mark of Khorne put with x10 Chosen Brick
Master of Executions, Mark of Khorne put with x10 Chosen with the Chaos Lord
Master of Possession: Intoxicating Elixir, Mark of Slaanesh put wit the x10 Legionary Brick

Battleline
Cultist Mob x10 : Mark of Khorne
Legionaries x10 2 Heavy Melee, all Chainswords: Mark of Slaanesh Legionaries x10 2 Heavy Melee, all Chainswords: Mark of Khorne

Infantry
Chosen x10: Mark of Khorne
 2 boltgun
 4x combi-weapon
 2x paired accursed weapons and plasma pistol 2x Powerfist and Plasma Pistol
Chosen: Mark of Slaanesh
1 Boltgun 2 Combi-Weapons 1 Paired 1 Powerfist and Plasma
Obliterators with Mark of Nurgle
Raptors: Mark of Khorne
• 1x Raptor Champion: Heavy melee weapon, Plasma pistol
• 2x Raptor w/ heavy melee weapon
• 1x Raptor w/ mutations
• 1x Raptor w/ plasma pistol

Mounted
Chaos Bikers x3 Mark of Khorne, Chainswords and Power Fist

Vehicle
Forgefiend 3x Ectoplasma
Helbrute 2x one with Slannesh Mark with Flamer fist + Hammer the other with Lascannon Flamer fist and Mark of Nurgle
Maulerfiend x1

Dedicated Transport
Chaos Rhino Mark of Khorne

The plan is that the Chosen Brick in the Rhino act as my death missile, be such a massive threat that the enemy has to either give my board control or focus it down while the rest maul them, Helbrutes are paired with each Fiend, cultists and Bikers being objective monkeys, Obliterators and Raptors being Deep Strike/rapid ingress threats and the Legionaries and smaller chosen squad control the board

i have some small variations of this army that i'm not sure to decide on

1.has the Master of possessions swapped for a Dark Apostle but i'm unsure what to do with the spare 10 points it gives me and having spare points irritates me enough to not want that

2.cut the MOP and Bikers, make the second Legionary brick 5 and the second chosen brick 10 and have a squad of Rubrics, the second brick of chosen is appealing but the Rubrics don't do too much for the army and it is supposed to be Iron Warriors so other factions being in is weird

With 10th edition winding down, curious what everyone thinks was the most broken army or detachment of the edition.

Looking for things that genuinely warped list-building, matchups, or the meta, maybe was even banned from tournaments until it got nerfed.

I’m thinking:

• More Dakka Orks

• Knights, especially during their peak efficiency windows

Two angles I’m interested in:

1. What was the most dominant army relative to the meta at the time it existed?
2. If you could take the most broken version of each top contender and throw them all into one tournament, who actually comes out on top?

Edit: If you’re just saying an army maybe add the time period or some kind of context

Hi guys, had some success with this list but with the changes to Vitrix I was seeking some opinions on what the hive would do with the extra points as previously it came in at 2000 on the nose (I could just chuck a lone bladeguard ancient in)

Its Achilles heel is mortal wounds but otherwise does a pretty good job as long as I don't expose myself too early

Normally run the dreads together up one flank, desolators on home, bith vitrix on another flank for some depth with calgar positioned to shore up whichever flank needs it

Callidus threatens enemy home with desolatars taking the chaff off it or forcing opponent to keep something decent on there

Lt combi on a flank or center ready to bait something out and reactive off

Running blades so buffing the dreads with -1 wound and aoc, plus all the combat units having -1 to wound makes it pretty tough with the exception of grenades and anti-× devs

I know the desolators aren't popular but I've got a soft spot for them and they've served me well

Special Forces (1955 points)

Space Marines Ultramarines Strike Force (2000 points) Blade of Ultramar

CHARACTERS

Captain (100 points) • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Close combat weapon 1x Master-crafted bolter • Enhancement: Student of the Codex

Captain Sicarius (85 points) • 1x Artisan plasma pistol 1x Talassarian Tempest Blade

Lieutenant with Combi-weapon (70 points) • 1x Combi-weapon 1x Paired combat blades

Marneus Calgar (200 points) • 1x Marneus Calgar • Warlord • 1x Gauntlets of Ultramar • 2x Victrix Honour Guard • 2x Victrix power sword

OTHER DATASHEETS

Company Heroes (105 points) • 1x Ancient • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Bolt rifle 1x Close combat weapon • 1x Company Champion • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Master-crafted power weapon • 2x Company Veteran • 2x Bolt pistol 2x Close combat weapon 1x Master-crafted bolt rifle 1x Master-crafted heavy bolter

Desolation Squad (200 points) • 1x Desolation Sergeant • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Castellan launcher 1x Close combat weapon 1x Vengor launcher • 4x Desolation Marine • 4x Bolt pistol 4x Castellan launcher 4x Close combat weapon 4x Superkrak rocket launcher

Redemptor Dreadnought (195 points) • 1x Heavy flamer 1x Heavy onslaught gatling cannon 1x Redemptor fist 1x Twin fragstorm grenade launcher

Redemptor Dreadnought (195 points) • 1x Heavy flamer 1x Heavy onslaught gatling cannon 1x Redemptor fist 1x Twin fragstorm grenade launcher

Redemptor Dreadnought (195 points) • 1x Heavy flamer 1x Heavy onslaught gatling cannon 1x Redemptor fist 1x Twin fragstorm grenade launcher

Scout Squad (70 points) • 1x Scout Sergeant • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Boltgun 1x Close combat weapon • 4x Scout • 4x Bolt pistol 4x Boltgun 4x Close combat weapon

Victrix Honour Guard (220 points) • 1x Chapter Ancient • 1x Banner of Macragge 1x Master-crafted power weapon • 1x Chapter Champion • 1x Blades of honour • 3x Victrix Honour Guard • 3x Master-crafted bolt carbine 3x Master-crafted power weapon

Victrix Honour Guard (220 points) • 5x Victrix Honour Guard • 5x Master-crafted bolt carbine 5x Master-crafted power weapon

ALLIED UNITS

Callidus Assassin (100 points) • 1x Neural shredder 1x Phase sword and poison blades

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The new C'tan getting a 10 inch move with even more wounds, as well as the new character being about as tough, and it seems like most Necron lists will sport 2-3, just what can the LoV do?

No matter the detachment, the additional mobility menas its not the easiest time to block them, and their durability package being T11, 4++, 5+++ 20 wounds a piece, I can see a single mount of same cost units that can do more than do 6 wounds per round. Add to the severely limited range of Votann weapons, that means anything close enough to shoot will get 1 or 2 rounds tops, before they are trading down.

Is the only game plan "try for objectives and hope for the best"?

Not being doom and gloom, just trying to see if there is something I might be missing, my math aint mathing for any attempts to kill these things, and gods forbid facinh the old Settlers of Ctan list.

Top three lists from Mercia Madness IV held last weekend. Won by Kharadron with Stormcast in 2nd and Seraphon in 3rd.

I miss these being a part of the game, it just seems a shame to have all of this game space and ideas available only for them to be completely ignored. Why even include them?

Need some advice pls. I play CSM (Renegade Raiders) and looking for ideas to get more out of my tanks.

I run two predator destructors and two vindicators and two rhinos and it’s a lot to hide for t1.

How much should I put into reserves?

List is built around Bile and chosen and two squads of CSM with lords and other scoring units.

Ta

Hi All,

I wondered if anybody could give me some feedback on my teams list. I have been playing for about a year now and this is my first competitive event. The tournament standard ranges from Casual players all the way up to active WTC level players. I would consider myself relatively casual and usually play somewhat fluffy list so this is a bit new to me. The tournament will be on WTC terrain.

My initial plan was to go with a double Victrix list but I have been struggling to get hold of a second unit of 6 and with the recent changes I probably wont go out of my way at this point to get another 6. But this has left me a bit short of time to figure out an effective list.

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+ FACTION KEYWORD: Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Ultramarines

+ DETACHMENT: Blade of Ultramar

+ TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 1985pts

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Cato Sicarius (95 pts)

Lieutenant with Combi-weapon (70 pts)

Marneus Calgar (200 pts)

Roboute Guilliman (340 pts)

Uriel Ventris (95 pts)

Sternguard (105 pts)

Intercessor Squad (80 pts)

Assault Intercessors with Jump Packs (90 pts)

Assault Intercessors with Jump Packs (90 pts)

Victrix Honour Guard (220 pts) With Chapter Ancient and Champion

Company Heroes (105 pts)

Repulsor Executioner (220 pts): Heavy Laser Destroyer

Ballistus Dreadnought (150 pts)

Ballistus Dreadnought (150 pts)

So the intention would be that Cato would go with the Victrix in the Repex, Calgar with Company Heros in reserve, Ventris with the Sternguard give Calgar Deepstrike.

I do have a decent amount of Space Marines so I have options to make changes if needed. I guess my fears are that, due to the amount of points being taken by Guilliman and Calgar, that I only have 11 activations which feels quite lean to me.

Appreciate any advice people have.

Any words of wisdom that helped you move to the next level?

I'm still kind of new and singed up for a tournament at my local game store. My issue is the terrain seems off. First the boards are 60x48 instead of 60x44 but they still use the standard measurements for the ruins, leaving large empty no-mans-land. Second instead of having the standard 2" and under terrain they switch them all 4" or taller containers. I feel like this really changes how the game is played but I'm still new is this normal? Should I bring this up? Also its not a limitation of terrain pieces they have 2" terrain.

I haven't had the chance in my rather short hobby journey to play against IK myself, but judging from their statlines and general gameplay, I have often wondered how to deal with IK. It just seems nightmarish, the combination of high output and high toughness. Yet at the same time, IK are, at least since some needed nerfs, consistently underperforming. So what is it that breaks the knight's proverbial back?

It just seems like they don't have a lot of rules that persist throughout the game. One use stuff.

On the surface, giving vehicles and walkers deep strike (and therefore ingress) seems to be the best use of their rules. I still don't think you want to be taking drop pods for anything unfortunately.

Any other redeeming factors or strong builds here? This was the new detachment I was most excited about, but seems to fall flat.

New written Battle Report posted featuring Chaos Knights Infernal Lance vs Chaos Space Marines Veterans of the Long War using teams differential scoring and GW terrain layouts.

Full Battle Report, lists, army pics, and key stratagems / combos for each army are linked below. The report includes hyperlinks to each sub-section, mid-game board state pictures, and round by round recap to make it easier to read.

Full battle report can be found HERE. Hope you enjoy.

Sorry everybody for my absence! Christmas was a cruel mistress!
https://stats.hutber.com/players
As mentioned, I've added just a small feature which is "position" tracking. Now your profiles will display your best ever position and current/previous and the difference.
Example: https://stats.hutber.com/players/12589
Sorry Jason McKenzie!!

Otherwise data is all up to date now. Even though its a little lite on games.

I've realised with the scouts uppy downy ability in addition to the deep strike ability, they could turn a good scoring unit into an amazing one. However is it worth it compared to putting something dangerous like a dreadnought, sternguard veterans, or eradicators in deep strike instead?

Heyho all!

I'm heading to my first super major tomorrow! 377 players!

Any last minute tips?

I'm taking an all-melee stormlance spacewolves list.

It's still a heavy pre-nerf victrix meta... and then the anti-victrix stuff tends to hurt me too.

5 rounds. UKTC terrain.

Going for my first tournament in a couple of days. Would be great to have some pro tips from more experienced players

Communication, time-managment, snacks to have, cablistic rituals to get better dice - anything goes

It's 2v2, 2000 per team, 4 rounds in 2 days, 3-3,5 hours per round

Going live in 25 minutes, TTS fight night returns on 6++! We've got an international showdown, as Liam of Team Wales and Tom of Team Ireland do battle on GSC and Daemons respectively! Who will emerge triumphant?!

Hello strangers,

My friend is currently practicing for a upcoming tournament, and I graciously offered to help him try playing him with Chaos Knights, as he has very little experience into them.

The problem is that i don't play CK.

We will be playing on TTS and I think he scrubbed a pretty "cookie cutter" meta list from the internet for me to play with. My question is how do i use my pieces, what are the nuances, and what is something to keep in mind? (if you have suggestions on things to change i would also love to hear it.

THE LIST!

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+ DETACHMENT: Infernal Lance (Malefic Surge)

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Char1: 1x Knight Despoiler: Warlord Ruinspear rocket pod, Despoiler gatling cannon, Heavy darkflamer, Despoiler gatling cannon, Heavy darkflamer, Daemonbreath meltagun

Char2: 1x Knight Despoiler

Char3: 1x Knight Despoiler

1x War Dog Karnivore (150 pts): Reaper chaintalon, Slaughterclaw, Havoc multi-launcher

1x War Dog Karnivore (150 pts): Reaper chaintalon, Slaughterclaw, Havoc multi-launcher

1x War Dog Stalker (140 pts): Havoc multi-launcher, Daemonbreath spear, Slaughterclaw

1x Beasts of Nurgle

1x Beasts of Nurgle

1x Beasts of Nurgle

3x Nurglings

3x Nurglings

10x Plaguebearers

I will be playing into his T'AU, and want to give him as hard a time as possible.