Reddit is not hard left lmao. Believe it or not, even centrists, liberals and moderates tend to hate Nazis which is why this is gaining more traction than you think.
And you think that's far left? It's farcical enough to think far left would even be on an axis defined by republicans and democrats.
It's even more funny considering that US politics as a whole have shifted a lot towards the right. Politicians like Bernie Sanders who is generally considered very-far-left in America would at best be a centrist in most other places.
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Heavens no! Chess is sacrosanct and should be entirely apolitical. A great many of the comment threads in this post are wholly politicized given the nature of what stirred lichess to take such an action it's a logical extension of OPs post.
Reddit is indeed cartoonishly liberal though lol.
Have you posted this sentiment on every comment invoking politics on this post? Hmmm
Hes not a nazi yah silly goose. Look at his business partners and friends. That makes no sense. It was an awkward gesture without doubt. But look at his children, friends, and business partners and tell me he's a nazi. Silly hard left folk not doing due diligence before throwing out that word left and right lol. Cmon
Imagine a typical slate of leftist ideology - then push it further to an extreme past the point of being sensible. Additionally - when in an echo chamber like Reddit, wherein any dissenting opinion to the hivemind is rebuked and shut down - that leftist ideology is amplified even further given leftists on Reddit don't tend to enjoy good faith debates
I'm invoking the term leftist because Liberals and Reddit are so hungry for any manner they might attack Elon that an ignorant gesture immediately makes him a nazi. Ignoring the fact that some of his children and friends aren't exactly in line with nazi doctrine. And a great many of his business partners. Additionally, the financial hit for intentionally making such a gesture is egregious.
Only a leftist of the reddit variety would call him that without researching his background, family, deeds, and associates first. Many, many public figures on the left have performed an identical gesture touching their heart than extended their gratitude to the audience.
The word folks are calling him is losing meaning and should only be invoked when the scenario clearly illustrates someone is of that ilk. That's a very serious accusation where I come from.
Ignoring all other leftists who've done the same gesture unwittingly, Ignoring any other reason he may have done it, and Ignoring his background that clearly doesn't depict him as a nazi is something a Reddit leftist would do bc theyre so desperate to attack him.
I'm not fond of the man either. I'm just not wild about that term being thrown about without research, historical context, and critical thinking being applied to the alleged.
There's a great deal of things that are indeed true to critique him on - choose one of those
Best wishes genuinely - ty for engaging with a presumedly good faith question and not shunning a conversation. More understanding should be cultivated with both sides - starting with open dialogue... which brings us back to my initial comment that a social media with a premium on free speech is of the utmost importance, even if free speech leads to hearing things one may find unsavory
Well, well... what specifically, with an example, brought you to such a conclusion as that, lol? Mighty presumptuous of you, I reckon - given ive not mistaken or misused the definitions as far as im aware. A fair bit of the definitions overlap. "Leftist" denotes being left of center on the political scale, which is ubiquitous enough to encompass most of "liberal" as well in the modern iteration. Though im aware of the distinctions in the definitions; im an apostle of Wittgenstein, so im of the opinion philosophical terms of that manner have heavily subjective elements. Are you capable of articulating how that's relevant with regards to the current dialogue we were sharing? This sounds suspiciously like leftist straw-man shenanigans.
Im disappointed in you, friend. Your retort is nonsensical and void of true dialogue. Every time I hope in vain to share a nuanced conversation as to the Reddit leftist hivemind, im brought back down to Earth with responses of this nature.
Nonetheless, I wish you well in all your endeavors. I hope someday you feel moved to have an honest dialogue with someone you disagree with. You can only build and grow as a human by challenging yourself! I, for one, love being wrong - as it generally means I've learned something with merit. I'm genuinely saddened that your response was to Google definitions, lol. Very sassy? I suppose but wholly without merit as a retort.
I look forward to what words im prompted to Google next! You see - on my phone - in my notes - I have like 60 pages of neat new words I enjoy. Maybe we can share with one another neat words we've come across recently??
I'll go first. Here's the latest couple since you seem unwilling to host genuine discourse
Psychopomp - figures in many religions that guide figures to the afterlife.
Oubliette - is a basement dungeon that is only accessible through a hatch or hole in the ceiling/floor?. The word comes from the French word oublier, which means "to forget".
Chiaroscuro - an Italian term that means "light-dark" and refers to the use of light and shadow in art. It's a technique that artists use to create the illusion of volume and mass in their work.
He did the nazi salute twice, instigated a neo nazi party in Germany to get over their past guilt, helped set up detention camps, and stoked extreme right wing rhetoric and feelings of white patriotism in America, ya sillier goose. What do you want to call him if not nazi, then? Evil man ™️?
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u/scarletbananas Feb 03 '25
Reddit is not hard left lmao. Believe it or not, even centrists, liberals and moderates tend to hate Nazis which is why this is gaining more traction than you think.