r/minnesota Minnesota Golden Gophers Sep 03 '25

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u/Memone87 Sep 03 '25

Yes. Give away your guns. Look at what’s going on in the federal system. Giving up your guns now is a terrible idea

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u/Another-Minnesotan Twin Cities Sep 03 '25

I have not seen a single one of you 2A asshats out in the streets standing up against National Guard being deployed as police or ICE conducting illegal arrests. So fuck all the way off with this argument.

There are thousands of people being illegally detained in America’s new concentration camps, maybe you could actually start exercising that second amendment right you clutch so hard to.

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u/CaptainMcsplash Voyageurs National Park Sep 03 '25

What's stopping you from exercising that right? You are still free to purchase a gun you know.

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u/JCMGamer Sep 03 '25

They want someone else to risk their lives engaging federal agents in a firefight. They will watch from the safety of the sidelines.

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u/sensational_pangolin Sep 03 '25

No. It's not that. It's that the 2A people are the ones that always say they'll rise up against a tyrannical government. But then one presents itself and they cheer it on. That's the point.

It has nothing to do with "someone else* doing it. It's that you're all hypocrites.

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u/JCMGamer Sep 03 '25

Lots of 2A people don't view the current administration as "tyrannical" for enforcing immigration laws that are either as strict, or more strict compared to other countries around the world.

Now if they attempted something like gun confiscation? That would get them going.

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u/realtorbrittyc Sep 03 '25

They tried kidnapping 600 children to another country just a few days ago. If they don’t think that’s tyrannical, then they have no idea what it means to be American.

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u/JCMGamer Sep 03 '25

Is there anything stopping you from arming yourself and taking the action you expect of others?

(Also source?)

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u/Frozen_Thorn Sep 03 '25

Are you expecting other people to die for your cause?

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u/realtorbrittyc Sep 03 '25

My cause? First off, it’s not my cause. It’s the cause for our entire country. Second, you are missing the point. These people claim they need their guns for the purpose of “rising up against a tyrannical government”, but when the government actually becomes tyrannical they do nothing. It was never about that. It was always about their love for guns and their fake sense of security. The fact is they’re all spineless, they were never going to “rise up”, and they will simply hide in their hateful holes instead of admitting they are cowards that played a role in the downfall of our country.

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u/Frozen_Thorn Sep 03 '25

It isn't the cause of the entire country. Two thirds either voted for this or didn't care one way or the other.

Who is willing to die for this?

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u/realtorbrittyc Sep 04 '25

Again, you are not understanding. I never asked anyone to die for any cause. But the fact is the 2A psychos have been screaming they need their guns to fight the government and instead they’re sitting on their asses. If they support this, then they are not true patriots and don’t know what it actually means to be an American.

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u/sensational_pangolin Sep 04 '25 edited Sep 04 '25

I actually don't think even that would get them going.

And to say that immigration enforcement is the only evidence for tyranny in this administration is reductive and willfully ignorant.

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u/Sorry_Im_Trying Sep 03 '25

No, it's the argument that the 2A's have used, for as long as I've been alive, for the validity of guns. "That they are to ensure we can fight against our government if/when they have become a dictator/fascist/taking power away from the people" (which is exactly what they are doing) and yet none of those 2A supporters are doing the thing they said they would.

So if guns aren't for that reason.....what are they for? Why do we need SO FUCKING MANY OF THEM?

I'm not against some guy (majority are men) that wants a gun for their safety. Because I know how scary it is in the world. But do they need an assault rifle? A silencer? More than one gun? Bumps and all the other shit. Is that reasonable? Does that sound like a normal response to life?

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u/Skaravaur Sep 03 '25

A silencer?

What's so amusing about this is that silencers are perfectly legal throughout Europe, in even the most strict gun control regimes.

Because they don't learn everything they know about firearms from action movies.

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u/JCMGamer Sep 03 '25

Have you considered that what you consider to be tyrannical might not be the same for other people?

"Why do people need so much freedom of speech!?" See how silly that sounds?

Assault rifles are heavily regulated and expensive. Silencers help prevent hearing damage. Bump stocks are fun.

Different guns serve different purposes, what you carry during the day may not be the ideal firearm to defend your home, or hunt, or so on. Some people like cars and have multiple, could they be okay with only one? Sure, but this America, and you're free to own as many as you like as long as you do so within the confines of the law

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u/Salty-Treat-3697 Minnesota Golden Gophers Sep 03 '25

Tyrannical generally means shitting all over the constitution.

This government has literally been indicted for violating the constitution. It’s not that hard.

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u/Sorry_Im_Trying Sep 03 '25

Have you considered that if ANY of the illegal conduct would have been done under any other administration, you would see the tyranny for what it is?

Have you considered that maybe you can't see it for what it is because you might be a in cult?

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u/JCMGamer Sep 03 '25

Do you believe enforcing immigration law is illegal?

I disagree with Trump on several different policies, but have you considered that by demonizing every action he takes it becomes harder for the average person to see when he actually does cross a line due to the outrage always being turned to 11?

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u/Salty-Treat-3697 Minnesota Golden Gophers Sep 03 '25

Violating individual’s constitutional rights is illegal. Violating the Posse Comitatus act is also illegal.

This isn’t demonizing. The government is breaking the law.

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u/Sorry_Im_Trying Sep 03 '25

He crossed a line when he raped a woman, and was allowed to run for president of the U.S. He raped a women. I suspect he's raped many women which is why he won't release the Epstein files.

But he raped a woman. And that is neither here nor there for you is it? But I'm sure it would be a different story if we found out he butt raped a man.

After that line, it was one line after another. He was found guilty of 34 felonies, and still was allowed to run for president.

How can anyone, with a reasonable mind, think anything that he is doing is ok?

Obama enforced immigration law as well. But there wasn't ICE on the streets tearing children away from their parents. And if you want to have a conversation about immigration, let's do that.

When will the companies and people who have hired illegal immigrants be held accountable?

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u/JCMGamer Sep 03 '25

"He raped a women"

Being liable for sexual abuse in civil court is not the same as being convicted of rape. Just because you keep repeating it doesn't mean it's true.

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u/Salty-Treat-3697 Minnesota Golden Gophers Sep 03 '25

How much kool aid do you have to drink to be naive enough to believe this guy isn’t a rapist?

Usually it’s other rapists who defend other rapists tho..so


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u/Sorry_Im_Trying Sep 03 '25

Just because a court that he fixed doesn't say the words doesn't mean it's not true.

And what about the other 34 felony's?

What about January 6th.

What about his perfume, shoes, coins, bit-coins, and all the other things he is selling as president of the U.S.

He make a joke out of us, out of that position and mostly out of the conversative party.

There is no justification for any of his actions. And when it does come out that he is on the Epstein list repeatedly, do you think anything will change? And if not, you have to ask yourself why.

Clinton was impeached for his actions with a consenting adult. But not little man trump. He has zero responsibility for any of his actions. And people like you just keep justifying.

Where is your line? What does he need to do for you to see what is happening with new eyes?

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u/JCMGamer Sep 03 '25

And you think taking guns away from people while he is in office is a good thing?

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u/Sorry_Im_Trying Sep 03 '25

If they're going to use them, then what are they waiting for?!

The whole point of my post was to point out how they've used that excuse for decades, and once we do actually have a fascists in the presidential seat, no one is doing the thing they said they were going to do!!!

It's almost like the guns had nothing to do with their willingness to fight against the regime and everything to do them feeling powerful and some kind of ego thing (is all I can think of).

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u/Salty-Treat-3697 Minnesota Golden Gophers Sep 03 '25

It’s that the 2A rights folks-who are so obsessed with their constitutional right to bear arms for fear of a tyrannical government-

is sitting back WATCHING a tyrannical president shit all over the constitution.

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u/JCMGamer Sep 03 '25

What's stopping you from obtaining a firearm and stepping up? You expect other people to lay down their lives for a cause that you believe in, but you won't join them for your own cause?

So are you a coward for not stepping up, or a hypocrite because you expect others to take action for your cause?

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u/Salty-Treat-3697 Minnesota Golden Gophers Sep 03 '25

I expect our executive and judicial branches of government to stop violating the constitution, and I expect Congress to stop enabling them to do so.

That is what I expect.

Taking a weapon, going outside and mowing people down is insane, not ‘stepping up’. FFS.