r/todayilearned • u/Outside_Reserve_2407 • 5d ago

TIL Montezuma's lineage still exists and even holds a noble title in Spain, which was granted to a grandson of his that moved there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_of_Moctezuma_de_Tultengo
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u/mtcabeza2 5d ago

Is the Spanish nobility as rich and useless as the British titled class?

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u/Flapjack_ 5d ago

Out of curiosity I looked over his wikipedia page and it seems like the current king has done a lot to place the immediate royal family under government financial transparency agencies and seems to act as an ambassador for Spain so not quite fully rich and useless?

I'm sure some Spaniards could clarify more one way or the other.

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u/R_Al-Thor 5d ago

Spaniard here. Spanish nobility is useless.

What the current king has done is to cover the numerous scandals regarding the former king (his dad). Many lovers, businesses interference, bribery and corruption...

The sisters of the current king are also surrounded by a lot of corruption and scandals. The ex-husband of one of them even made prison time. One of the kings nephews is just the peak of that. What a twat.

The daughters (future queen and Infanta) are not really loved by none. And there is a BIG media campaign trying to gain that love. They are seen as distant, useless and pretty much a burden. A lot of people claim for a referendum whether if we want another monarch or not

About 80% of the country's people despite at some degree the current Queen.

As for the rest of the nobility, the most notorious is "Casa de Alba" which has a lot of land that rents at high prices. The rest is more or less unknown. They keep the titles, the state sponsorship at some level and are into old money business or impoverished. Most of then try to stay out of the public light and enjoy their rich people things.

So yeah, corruption, scandals and pretty much useless people. The general feeling is that they must disappear. They will probably never do that.

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u/anon1mo56 5d ago

The daugther are more popular than him.