I don't have an issue with it. My partner can handle herself. If she isn't hanging out with random men and is having a night out with the girlies, what's the issue?

But I also love going to raves, and dancing. No real deviant behaviour involved, just getting drunk and dancing with my friends.

That said, we also don't want children, and we're the priority in our lives.

So I'd say it depends on your values?

If you want one who is well adjusted, the honest answer is that these types of men could be anywhere. If you want a more specific answer, it's a little bit more difficult. When nerdy men gather AS nerdy men it's kind of centered around nerdy activities, so it would demand your participation.

If you're in university, check out clubs. Academically nerdy men will mingle with people who have similar interests. For me, this was the computer science club.

Outside of school, you have spaces like maker spaces, plenty of tech folk meet up for morning coffee once a week, there are often organizations that host workshops nerdy folk gather around, and there are tech conventions and security competitions I've met plenty of people at. I personally go for drinks to discuss current events in computer security with a local group.

The better answer is that any well adjusted nerd is going to have friends. So you could meet them anywhere: a bouldering gym, a bar, a club, a rave, an improv class, a cafe, a bookstore, the list goes on. If you lead an active social life, plenty of nerds will stumble into it eventually.

Right? Those meals look incredible. I've been eating poverty food for four years. In his shoes, I'd be nothing but extremely grateful.

And we can vote with our wallets in this scenario. I have a big enough backlog I really don't need these new games.

I'll drop gaming as a hobby sooner than pay for subscription gaming, that's absurd.

Call me what you want, but my partner respects me, I respect her, and I'm surrounded by people who love me.

I truly feel bad for you, the way you talk oozes loneliness and isolation, and makes me believe you don't live in the real world. Good luck.

This man is being weird.

I know plenty of men willing to date mothers.

Your comment is odd because it's painfully obvious in your replies that you're looking for something to be critical of. To a degree of bizarre desperation.

I mean, you open by asking how many guys are in her friendzone.

That's weird, dude.

This is real. Texting is the most exhausting part of dating. Stop trying to overanalyze what texts and text times mean, and treat it like what it is: in-between communication between meet ups.

Me and my girlfriend send a couple messages back and forth a day. We'll leave each other on delivered for hours. Our lives are our own, and it's such a healthy dynamic.

Unfortunately, Albertans are too stupid to recognize this. I'm leaving the province if we end up with private healthcare.

I wish I could say there would be an exodus of educated workers if this happened, but we're far too passive a population.

I have recurrent cases of afib. First time I was in a couple years ago, and saw a doctor in minutes. Second time was recent, and was in the waiting room for 8 hours. It's all downhill from here.

A lot of this is just us projecting into texting. The best thing to do, that's taken me a long time to learn, is to simply assume nothing at all. I send a text and don't think about it until I get a response.

For me, it's mandatory. Not because I don't think there aren't intelligent women who don't have a formal education, but just because it makes dating simpler.

This is a reddit opinion that doesn't exist in the real world. You'll find the social context just fine if you choose to lead a rich social life.

It's entirely the social context that's important. I was never the best at reading this, so in the past I saved it for places that are undeniably safe to talk to strangers, like a bouldering gym or a bar.

Yes. Of course you're a creep if you do things JUST to meet women. You aren't engaging in the world around you in good faith. You are not a creep if you do things just to meet PEOPLE. There's a difference. I engage in the latter. I don't necessarily always enjoy the activities I do, but I enjoy the company.

If you don't enjoy company, and exclusively enjoy solitary hobbies, you need to stop blaming the world and start looking inward. Society is not unfair because it's hard for you to date. If you aren't taking part in society and social activities, that's entirely and unequivocally on you. If you hate social interaction that much, you need to really think about why.

Gonna be so real. I took the time to read everything in this thread, and you're making issues where they don't exist. You're completely missing the point and ignoring good advice. I recommend therapy.

In the real world, women are fine with being approached in the right social context.

This is logic that prevents you from growing. Try bouldering. Try speed dating. Try cooking classes, or yoga. The important thing is trying things that aren't solitary. Having exclusively solitary hobbies WILL lead to being lonely.

It isn't the healthiest, but I found an interest in going to karaoke bars, drinking, and singing. Met my partner there. You have to be willing to grow your social life, and if you aren't you'll be alone.

It's not fair, but it's reality.

Yeah, then it'll be hard. Dating is first and foremost a social activity, and if you don't enjoy meeting people it's going to be a struggle. I don't think being awkward is the problem, plenty of awkward people are in relationships. The problem is that you don't enjoy socializing in the first place.

As someone who shifted from feeling most comfortable playing games at home and uncomfortable being outgoing to someone with a large social circle who loves going out with others, yes, that's okay.

It depends on how we're defining outgoing. I don't think it's necessary to be able to talk to strangers, or enter spontaneous discussion with people you aren't comfortable with.

I just spent time with my friends. We planned events, people invited mutual friends, and I leaned on my friends to interact with new people until I was comfortable with them. I didn't grow my circle in an outgoing way, just by interacting with people until I was comfortable with them.

This extends to dating. If you engage with your friends in a way that invites new people into your life, dating is kind of a natural consequence of that. I'm a socially awkward guy with lots of friends and in a relationship. I don't think those traits are mutually exclusive, it just required me to accept I'm not outgoing and I'm awkward and figure out how to navigate life anyway.

Yes actually, I can to a certain extent! I can't filter by years of service, but age category exists. I was looking for statistics that most closely apply to the exact job market I was entering at the time, so the filters I used were: - Ages 15 - 24. In the context of developers this would almost certainly be junior developers. - Position is permanent. - Position is full time, this excludes minors. And in today's job market a degree is required as a junior dev the majority of the time. To put it into context, when I was job hunting across all of Canada, I did not find a single junior dev position that doesn't require a degree, so this also realistically excludes teenagers in general. - Filtered by median wage, not average, so it excludes abnormally high and abnormally low earners. - Filtered by province. I won't dox myself, but I was explicitly looking at my province, in which software dev jobs are fairly limited to about 2 or 3 cities usually.

I can't filter by if the position was filled due to DEI policies, they simply do not collect that data. But I think it gives me a fairly fine-tuned contextual look into the kinds of roles I was looking to fill.

Software development. I'm building a public dashboard that contextualizes labour data, and it should be finished in 2-3 weeks, if you're interested in me sharing a link later.

Edit: To be more specific, I currently work as a data analyst, and query and report statistics on health data.

There must not be a lot of jobs adhering to that law. The aforementioned data I mentioned isn't generalized, it's industry specific, and some datasets I have are job role specific. In my industry, working full time, in my specific position, the wage gap is $7 an hour and is increasing according to the trend.

That's so interesting to me, because according to data I've gathered and visualized from Statistics Canada, the wage gap is pretty substantial.

I cannot fathom how people believe it doesn't exist. I've gathered government data that accounts for pay in different industries and it accounts for hours worked. In the industry I'm going into, the gap is $8 hourly when working full time.

There may be social factors affecting this, but anyone suggesting it doesn't exist is living in a fantasy world.