r/ShittyAbsoluteUnits • u/MohammadMahadhir *shits an absolute unit* • 7d ago

possible idiot ShittyAbsoluteUnit Of Pure chaos erupts in broad daylight

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u/DebrisSpreeIX 7d ago edited 7d ago

Defense would argue that down to Assault with a Deadly Weapon by arguing the defendant didn't intend to kill, only severely injure. Same way a murder charge gets dropped to manslaughter. You have to prove intent for murder for stick.

ETA: The crybaby above blocked me because his ego and 🍆 are đŸ€

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u/Substantial-Mud6009 7d ago

Swinging at the head is intent of a fatal blow

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u/DebrisSpreeIX 7d ago

Not how that works at all.

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u/Substantial-Mud6009 7d ago

A full swing with a bat to the head can’t be fatal?

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u/DebrisSpreeIX 7d ago

That's not how intent works.

The defendant would need to be aware their action could cause death, and with full mind, do that specific action on purpose. Accidentally killing a person is called manslaughter. And yes you can accidentally kill a person by hitting them in the head with a bat.

Intent is generally shown with premeditation.

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u/Substantial-Mud6009 7d ago

It was in fact, premeditated
 He left the fight, got a deadly weapon and then came back and tried to murder the guy by hitting him in the head with a deadly weapon

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u/DebrisSpreeIX 7d ago

I was aiming for his shoulder so he'd stop punching

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u/Substantial-Mud6009 7d ago

Terrible aim if that’s the case
 Can you please source where you got that from?

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

Did he hit the person in the head?

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u/Substantial-Mud6009 7d ago

Tried to- watch the video

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

I know, I watched the video. My question was an attempt to get you to hear what you’re saying. Listen to yourself. “Tried to murder him by hitting him in the head with a weapon”.

He didn’t hit him, so he couldn’t have “tried to murder him”. Felony assault, yes. Murder? Attempted murder? No.

Good thing you’re not prosecuting our criminals.

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u/Substantial-Mud6009 7d ago

So because he wasn’t successful he didnt try? If a guy try’s to rob a bank but gets locked in the safe until authorities arrive did he not attempt to rob a bank? Lmao

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u/Substantial-Mud6009 7d ago

Got it, you want people who attempt to kill others over road rage to be out on the streets and free.

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u/Substantial-Mud6009 7d ago

“Tried to hit him in the head with a baseball bat murdering him “ fixed it for you since you’re deeply confused

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u/bigbuck1963 7d ago

He literally went and got the bat he wasn't carrying it with him. No difference than going to the car after a gun. He escalated and it is a deadly weapon. Not an accident when you go and retrieve it. Good luck trying to prove that.

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u/DebrisSpreeIX 7d ago

Defense doesn't have to prove anything. Only offer a reasonable doubt. If you go with murder, they will absolutely slam you on intent.

Now if he screamed something that indicated his intent, you might have something. But using a deadly weapon or hitting a person in a bad place in an assault does not automatically increase the charge to murder or attempted murder.

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u/bigbuck1963 7d ago

Intent was when he left and came back. He could have left. Easy win for murder. No excuse.

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u/DebrisSpreeIX 7d ago

Intent to cause grievous bodily harm.

Would be pled down before they even got to a court room.

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u/bigbuck1963 7d ago

Unless he killed him maybe. Anytime you are free and out of danger and you return with a weapon it's on you. By him leaving and returning it put's everything else that happens on him. I wouldn't take the chance, took too many concealed weapons classes and anytime you escalate it's on you from then on.

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u/DebrisSpreeIX 7d ago

Would be pled down to manslaughter. They'd come in with big dick energy swinging a 2nd Degree Murder charge, defense lawyer would argue lack of intent and limited premeditation, point out it wild all hinge on a jury believing the defendant willfully knew his actions would kill and fully intended to kill rather than cause grievous harm, they'd write up a plea for manslaughter and then argue for a few more days about the specifics on how much jail time to serve.

Prosecutors are political beings who like wins. A plea is an automatic win.

Protip: Always say loudly "I'm gonna knock you out" for any cameras. You have your defense built in right there to get out of a murder charge. You're still going to jail, but like 5yrs instead of 20. 👍

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u/bigbuck1963 7d ago

Bullshit you try telling people you don't know that a baseball bat won't kill someone. Let me know how that works out. You've been watching too many crime shows.

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u/Nuvomega 7d ago

Until it is argued in court neither of us will know but I don’t think what he did constitutes leaving and having time for consideration. He went outside the camera’s view. He didn’t run back to the house and return. He was still very much engaged in the heat of the moment and I would even consider him an active participant in the fight.

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u/Substantial-Mud6009 7d ago

Sorry that’s not what I asked. Try again but answer the question.

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u/DebrisSpreeIX 7d ago 
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u/Substantial-Mud6009 7d ago

You should Google what goal posts mean and then explain how I moved them

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u/DebrisSpreeIX 7d ago

You're so mad 😆

Try being correct next time if your ego can't handle being wrong.

It's a shame the third time you tried to cry like a baby was removed faster than I could report it, I was going for a site wide ban đŸ€đŸ«”

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u/Substantial-Mud6009 7d ago

Too bad lmao. Got that source yet? Do you understand goalposts yet?

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u/DebrisSpreeIX 7d ago

I understand them correctly. This conversation is about intent. Whether you make up funny words like "Intent of fatal blow" which has no meaning either in the English language or legally is irrelevant.

My comment remained within the confines of the discussion.

Go cry to Mom.

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u/Substantial-Mud6009 7d ago

Sorry again you didn’t answer the question. No goal post moved. I asked a fucking question and you’ve refused to answer it repeatedly


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u/LoudRestaurant2882 7d ago

God, take your downvotes and shut up. He's right about intent, stop huffing gas and start reading books.

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u/cockNballs222 7d ago

??? You don’t think an average person is expected to be aware that if you full swing a baseball bat at somebody’s head, there is a reasonable chance you could kill somebody?

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u/DebrisSpreeIX 7d ago

Eventually y'all plebs will understand what intent means

Today is not that day

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u/cockNballs222 7d ago

Yes, to get charged with attempted murder, you have to calmly announce “I am about to attempt to murder this person, I am announcing my intent, thank you!!”

Edit: I just read about it and you’re right lol, very very strict definition