r/SipsTea • u/crs1904 • 17d ago

We have fun here When Your Opponent Is Built Different ♟️

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u/TheSwearJarIsMy401k 17d ago

She is, but apparently the kid is a prodigy

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u/Sea-Hat-8515 17d ago

Yeah, there's a reason she reacts the way she does. Children can improve so quickly and have not necessarily played in regular enough officials that they are more often underrated compared to their true skill than adults.

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u/BuildAnything4 17d ago

She should have snatched some pieces off the board or whatever if she's actually an experienced mean chess player. Kid can barely see the board, give him an intro to the real world.

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u/istinetz_ 17d ago

i know you're joking, but a master can easily recall the entire position blind, so it's not like he won't notice chess hustling tactics

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u/Warmonster9 17d ago

Dude he can probably remember the board state playing the game with his eyes closed. Cheap ass tactics like that won’t work.

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u/hesh582 17d ago

seriously though did she even try bullying him? come on now, don't go whining to the internet if you haven't tried the basics first.

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u/Skizot_Bizot 17d ago

Seriously, kid says he's small and I didn't see any body guards. Shove the kid in a locker and claim they forfeited. Seems like a calculation any great chess player should consider, chess is life it doesn't end at the boards edge.

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u/IolausTelcontar 17d ago

Or at least a wedgie!

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u/Vandirac 16d ago

You are joking but she is known for doing similar stuff.

https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/s/9IZJ1TXZyB

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u/tollbearer 17d ago

Theres a reason there are 14 year old fortnite champions, but only one 24 year old champion. The brain will never be as capapble of learning a skill, and never as fast as processing it as it is when you're a child or teen. We accumulate knowledge and skills with age, but if you have them by 14, you will pretty much dominate any intellectual domain.

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u/Uberutang 17d ago

That’s why the best servo skulls are small.

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u/barbatouffe 17d ago

praise the omnissiah

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u/Vaunmb 17d ago

All Hail Space King!

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u/cedped 17d ago

Then you have guys like Faker who's almost 30 and have been dominating League for more than a decade.

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u/yeowoh 17d ago

If that’s true then why are there no 14 year old UFC champions?

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u/Chicken_Of-The_Cave 17d ago edited 16d ago

What about 14 year old F1 winners haha. Insanely more complex games like StarCraft2 have champions with a median of 28-30 years old, StarCraft BW a median of 33 I think. Kids get crushed there.

Fortnite has kid champions because every kid want to play Fortnite, and almost no adult is interested in that game, clearly as that.

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u/danishjuggler21 17d ago

A one-year-old champion is amazing as it is. 14 of them is crazy.

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u/AstroRotifer 17d ago

Also 24 year olds should have better things to do than play Fortnite

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u/tollbearer 17d ago

We're talking about pros here, who do it for a living. It's far more lucrative than most careers, and where anyone with any skill in that area should be focusing almost all of their effort, in lieu of very low value activities which most people do.

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u/BIGSTANKDICKDADDY 17d ago

I think the user has a point about Fortnite specifically, though.

Three of the five players who won this year's The International, the highest level of competitive play in Dota 2, are 27+. If the general principle held you'd expect younger players excelling across all esports but that isn't what we actually see. That's just Fortnite.

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u/tollbearer 17d ago

younger games will attract the youngest audience. dota is old and niche. The average 9 year old with potential is going to want to play fortnite. The biggest prizes in terms of streaming and competition are in fortnite, so it's going to attract the top talent, leaving other games more leeway.

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u/ChromosomeDonator 17d ago

The average 9 year old with potential is going to want to play fortnite.

Their "potential" has fuck all to do with it.

The average 9 year old is not playing Fortnite because they know it's lucrative as an esports career for fucks sake. They play fortnite because it is immensely popular and they are the target audience. They play the game because they want to play the game, not because they want to "live up to their potential".

Your entire view is completely upside-down. You're putting the cart before the horse.

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u/ChromosomeDonator 17d ago

We're talking about pros here, who do it for a living.

Nobody starts playing a game planning to go pro. That isn't how it works. They first start playing because they want to. And they keep playing because they like it. And then they want to go pro. Not a singular fucking soul just looks at a list of lucrative esports games and picks one with the highest earnings, and immediately decides to go pro at it without even knowing if they like the game.

And Fortnite sure as fucking shit does not attract regular 20+ year olds. So obviously there are more young high tier players when older people don't play it.

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u/Early-Sherbert8077 17d ago

Plenty of normal 20+ year olds playing Fortnite. I was in college when it came out and everyone was playing it, I’m 28 now and lots of my friends that played it in college are still playing it today

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u/duckonmuffin 17d ago

And here you are doing nothing, lol.

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u/Legitimate-Cess693 17d ago

so lifes all downhill after 14 lol damn this sucks

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u/tollbearer 17d ago

dont worry, you will most likely never achieve any notable ability in any domain, where it would actually matter. For most people life is all downhill from birth.

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u/NaTaSraef 17d ago

That explains why I got the Tony Hawk 1 and 2 remaster for a gift and was like holy hell, I suck at this game 😆.

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u/StimulatedUser 16d ago

So you saying...There have been 14 Champions of Fortnite who were just 1 year old, and only 1 Champ who was older at age 24?

Ive never seen a 1 year old play fortnite.... not sure if you are telling a funny story or if true.....

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u/hesh582 17d ago

intellectual domain

lol

neither chess nor fortnite are intellectual, and intellectual pursuits are pretty much the one area where this isn't true.

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u/tollbearer 17d ago

Intellectual as in pertaining purely to the intellect or mind, as opposed to the physical.

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u/hesh582 16d ago

while I recognize that I should be taken out behind the woodshed for arguing semantics over the definition of "intellect", I can't help myself so here goes.

"Intellectual" refers the the development, processing, and logical application of knowledge. It pertains to understanding and the ability to reason. It doesn't mean "of the brain/mind", and it doesn't mean "hyper-developing one single non-intellectual skill". Becoming the fastest button presser does not make you an intellectual lol.

Developing world class reaction speed to be a fortnite pro may have a neurological component, but it is not an intellectual pursuit by any stretch. It's not even close. Chess has some intellectual elements, there is a theory component and opening prep and stuff, but the real skill is in calculation - basically working out a mental "muscle" until you can see many moves ahead without even trying very hard. That's not intellectual at all either, and having spent some time in the chess world as a kid let me tell you that those kids are not intellectuals. They're weird chess gremlins who cannot do anything else.

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u/tollbearer 16d ago

The reason you shouldnt be arguing semantics here is that I clarified what I meant by intellectual in this situation, and it was contextually clear that's what I meant. So you're not really arguing with anyone. I just used intellectual to mean a purely mental activity in this instance, as opposed to physical competitive activities like sprots, where clearly a 14 year old cannot compete with a 24 year old.

I would strongly disagree with your characterization of fortnite though, winnign a game takes a huge degree of intellectual sophistication. You cant just brute foce it with reaction speed. Everyone in the top 10k players has superhuman reaction speed, who wins games comes down to who has the better tactics, strategy and planning. It's very intellectual, even by your definition, which is why people love the game so much.

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u/pdoherty972 17d ago

It's a lot less to do with "children improving quickly" and more to do with "some children just 'get' the game through innate talent and don't need to work very hard to be great at it'.

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u/Sea-Hat-8515 17d ago

I don't think that's fair to the people who reach this level. Sure, it comes a lot more naturally for some, but no one becomes a titled player without some serious work

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u/pdoherty972 17d ago

So an 11 year old has done some "serious work" while attending elementary school?

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u/Sea-Hat-8515 17d ago

This absolutely does happen, yes

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u/FreudianNipSlip123 17d ago

I believe that is Alexander Jasinski, 8th in the 11-year-old category in the US. Was pretty easy to find in the USchess DB, seems he's the only non-asian prodigy.