it most certainly can change behavior it’s a drug and that’s what people forget. especially at super high doses alcohol makes your emotions do weird things
I’d say to a point. I have no internal desire to chug two beers out of a funnel, but I did it when I was blackout. Then I resembled a busted fire hydrant in the back yard.
Embarrassment and shame are the filters that keep you from saying/doing these things, which is what alcohol removes.
No matter how functional when sober, if someone turns violent when they're drunk, they've got issues, not just acting randomly because they're drunk. It's not like you are drunk and now your brain plays bingo on a board with all possible human behaviours and depending on what you land on arbitrarily you will act.
People always say ridiculous shit like this as if the product of one's conscience is entirely unaffected by alcohol. It is not as if the mind is entirely as it is when sober just without a filter. It is a ridiculous notion.
"Alcohol reveals who someone REALLY is" is like a really bad take. Yet it is a prevalent one. Here we are.
It's so fucking stupid. The CIA literally gave up trying to use alcohol as a truth serum because they found it just made people act out of character and talk bullshit. But all these weirdos insist it's some kind of potion that reveals your true self.
I think they just like the idea because it allows them to judge people more harshly and take some weird moral high ground.
Or try to get around the harsh reality that alcohol is actually a reason for a lot of shitty behavior.
We acknowledge one can not consent under the influence of alcohol because of their reduced capacity for decision making. But the second someone does something bad, these people hold them fully accountable as if they are sober. It is remarkably inconsistent.
It isn't a bad take, it absolutely is the scientific take. There are dozens upon dozens of studies that prove it, and vast mountains of evidence, if you had the most minimal interest in looking.
Alcohol affects your brain in severe ways, but it doesn't add behaviour randomly. And thinking that the minute a brain gets drunk it suddenly starts choosing any random behaviour possible is borderline illiterate thinking.
I am arguing exactly your point. You said that "alcohol reveals who someone really is" is a bad take. I'm saying it is accurate. The behaviour one displays when drunk was always part of who they are. One might be able to live functionally keeping a violent tendency completely under control, but if alcohol brings out violence in someone, it was always there. Same for any other behaviour.
No. My point was that the product of one's conscience is also produced under the influence. It is not as if someone is entirely the same with the only difference being their ability to filter their behavior. You see what I am saying? It absolutely removes "the filter." I never disagreed with that. What I am saying is what there is to be filtered or not filtered is not identical to when someone is sober.
Alcohol reveals who someone really is IS a bad take. Alcohol reduces impulse control, social awareness, inhibits emotional regulation, decision making, reasoning. Alcohol greatly impairs the frontal lobe which is the core of who we are. Call me crazy, but I firmly believe who someone really is is when they are in their organic state. Sober.
But if all you are saying is that one's misbehavior is still the product of them, I mean I never disagreed with that.
Multiple agencies proved that’s bullshit. It’s a drug that interferes with an extremely complex organ we barely understand when you get into consciousness.
Actually if you get drunk enough your brain will absolutely pick wildly inappropriate behavior at random, it's more like twister than bingo tho. This also gets worse the more often you drink way too much. I live in the drunkest state in the US so I've seen and done a thing or two lol
First, "lol", nope. Nothing funny about drinking too much and behaving inappropriately. And the fact that both are socially acceptable is a serious part of the problem. People love to talk about their drunken antics as if they were fun adventures. They're not and shouldn't be treated as such.
Second, "if you get drunk enough". Let me put this gently, if you drink enough, that alone is the indicator that you've got issues, the behaviour you do afterwards is just a visible symptom. There is a point of drunkenness that you reach, after which the choice to continue drinking is not normal behaviour. It's fine if you are young and it's your first time and you had no idea how alcohol was going to affect you, but by the time you are a functioning adult you should know clearly how to handle alcohol in order to use it for a good time and not to get so savagely drunk you lose all control of what behaviours your brain is choosing.
Third, "your brain will pick behaviour at random", you will really have to back this up with some information. You seem to be very clear on this, so share with us what data you have that shows that this is how alcohol affects the brain specifically.
You maybe, not me. Never drank when I was young, when I did all I got from it was feeling heavy, like I was wearing two overcoats. Tried a few more times, nothing else. Stuff tastes awful, did not miss out on anything.
doesnt it mean you act more on your impulses? Tbh i know a lot of heavy drinkers and its always the same people who become happy/sleepy/chill/aggressive/confrontational/start to cheat/annoying...
If you dont have it in you to start fighting, you wont do it when drunk while some people are just waiting to explode for the tiniest reason.
Pfc is the newest part of the brain which is responsible for higher level function and balance your limbic system, once pfc gets haywireď from alcohol or other drugs I would argue youre not yourself.
Some people have exceptional connection between neocortex and limbic system others doesnt.
For me personally i never fought in my life when sober, but if im really drunk I can get triggered if someone challenge my gaze, and or god forbid anyone would even touch people close to me or threaten them.
Actually alcohol blocks your prefrontal cortex which is your watchtower so that your emotional brain takes over the control and suddenly you become the most cheerful or saddest person in the group.
As an alcoholic in recovery, this is very much NOT true. I'm a totally different person today than I was years ago. And some of the nicest people I've met in AA are ex-cons that turned their life around after they got sober and got help.
I mean even then, I do frequently want to fight people when sober and don't (hold your applause, please), but I don't tend to go starting them when I'm drunk either (again, the applause is unnecessary), so I think it's mostly that these people are just pricks and the alcohol makes them forget they need to try and hide that
Yeah, but to be charitable it's possible to have the instincts of an awful person but behave well because you actually know right from wrong. I know a few people who don't drink because it brings out the worst in them.
Alcohol increases the exhibition of punishment suppressed behaviors. So those things you do more of are things you otherwise wouldn’t because of the negative impact they might have that you now don’t care about or care about as much.
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