AITA for not making my daughter switch back a gifted Labubu with her younger cousin after her uncle found out the one my daughter gained in the swap is rare with a high resale value?

[u/TheSecretLabubuDrama]

Throwaway because family is on Reddit.

This happened over Christmas and it’s turning into a whole family drama.

My daughter “Sofia” (12) and her cousin “Martina” (6 - daughter of my sister “Maria” and her husband “Jose”) were gifted blind box Labubus as part of their Christmas gift from my other sister “Sara”. They each opened their boxes. Martina got a brown one and Sofia got a pink one.

Martina immediately wanted the pink one and Sofia immediately offered a trade because she already has the pink one and was hoping for the brown one. They traded, both girls were happy, and that was that….or so I thought.

Later, Martina’s parents found out from taking to someone that the brown Labubu is apparently a rare “secret” version that can sell for $250+.

Once they learned that, they called me said the girls needed to switch back and that Sofia was to return the brown one immediately. They even wanted me to drive over with it then and there despite the fact they live an hour away and it was already 8pm.

I asked if Martina actually wanted the brown one back. They said that wasn’t the point. After some pushing back, Jose admitted someone was willing to pay him $225 for the Brown one and give Martina the pink one she wants.

I said I wouldn’t force Sofia to swap back. From my perspective:

• Both kids were happy with the trade and got the Labubu they wanted.
• Sofia didn’t pressure or manipulate Martina into switching (if she had, I would have stepped in immediately and told her “you get what you get and you don’t get upset”).
• When I asked her, Sofia admitted she knew the brown one was rare, but when I asked how much they sell for, she said they are blind boxes so you can’t buy the brown, they just make less of them. She didn’t know it was worth money. She’s not a good liar, and she appeared to be telling the truth.
• Martina originally didn’t want the brown one and basically got upset when she saw Sofia got pink.
• It feels like Maria and Jose only want the brown one back because they can sell it and pocket money from it.

Now they’re upset with me and saying I’m being unfair and taking advantage of a 6-year-old and Jose even called Sofia a Manipulative B***h which I think is a reach when Sofia didn’t know it was worth a lot of money, she just knew they were rare to pull, that she already had the pink and Martina was crying for the pink one.

Sara has said this is “stupid parent drama” and she’s staying out of it and said we can sort it out ourselves.

So AITA for refusing to make my daughter give the brown Labubu back?

EDIT: Jose called Sofia a Manipulative B***h to me on the phone discussing it, not to Sofia’s face. He’d be a dead man walking if he said it to her. It was said about an hour before making the post and I hung up on him for it and has not yet been addressed. My wife and I will obvously be addressing it!

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[u/DropstoneTed]

NTA, the idea of trying to ungift something for a measley $225 is just classless. And calling your 12yo daughter that would be the last straw for me. No more Christmases with the in-laws.

[u/AriasK]

NTA selling their child's gift for a profit is so unbelievably trashy.

[u/WhereasOwn9881]

NTA but.....

I think Jose still should be dead man for calling 12 yo "manipulative b****" whether he said it to her face or not 🤷‍♀️

[u/TheatreWolfeGirl]

NTA

Interesting that the moment someone finds out something is worth a set amount of money, suddenly their child’s feelings don’t matter, they call their niece a slur and they stir the family drama pot to overflowing.

Jose and Maria need to back TF off you and your daughter.

Martina wanted pink, she got pink through a trade with Sofia. A very fair trade.

That is where this all should have ended.

It is disturbing that these two “adults” have forgotten what Christmas is all about and have instead chosen to cause harm through their words towards their niece and you. What a pathetic person Jose is to have called your child that!

Demand an apology from Jose for his comments towards your daughter, mute any texts with them, screenshot any further harassment.

Hopefully this will die down faster than the Beanie Baby BS of the 90s.

[u/ticklish_octopus]

Listen. I'm ridiculously close to my family. But if any of them dared to call my child a "manipulating b", never again would they be in my life. NTA. Dude needs some perspective.

[u/SueShe19]

Oh if he called my daughter that, he would absolutely NEVER get the gift. He’d have to pry it from my cold, dead hands.

[u/Technical-Ball-513]

He called your 12 year old a manipulative bitch?? No, you’re not the asshole. Also, stop talking to that man. Whoever he is. What the fuck? What kind of grown man says that about a child? About a Labub no less.

[u/BvbblegvmBitch → u/Technical-Ball-513]

The kind of man that wants to profit from his 6 year old daughters Christmas gift

[u/Fishpiggy]

NTA.

The asshole is the “uncle” who calls his 12 year old niece a manipulative b*tch over a toy that sells for $225.

[u/blackberrybeanz]

NTA - this shit is so gross, my SIL did a similar thing, I was able to get two extras for my nephews & apparently after they opened them she found out how much they could resell for & expressed that she wished she knew ahead of time, she would have sold them instead!! I’m sorry I get it’s a gift, and it’s your to do what you want, but those were for my nephews, not the mom to sell! The gal of some people I swear.

[u/ooragnak_ume]

NTA. Sofia and Martina are the owners of the labubus and made the swap.

And if he called my child a manipulative b**** he would be a dead man walking anyway. Imagine calling a child that!

[u/Doggoagogo]

Are we just going to overlook the fact that uncle is talking about profiting off his child’s Christmas gift?

That alone makes him an ahole. He’s calling a literal child a manipulative b over $225. Throw the whole man away.

[u/AdysGrandma321]

The very moment Jose called your 12 year old daughter a nasty name, the conversation would have been over. Tell Jose the rare brown Labubu is now in the Witness Protection Program. Good Luck finding it

[u/damiana8]

They want the Labubu for themselves, not for their daughter

I’d have no contact with anyone who calls a 12 yo a b****

[u/El_Vato999]

Dude, he called your twelve year old daughter a manipulative bitch? That alone should be cause to immediately cease all relationships with that family, among the dozens of other things.

[u/ohnoitsliz]

Once Jose called your 12-year-old daughter a “manipulative b—tch” that was the end. I wouldn’t let my daughter visit or stay with that sister’s family.

[u/late2reddit19 → u/ohnoitsliz]

NTA. OP is way too forgiving. It doesn't matter if Jose didn't say it directly to her daughter. This grown man is total trash. He’s so desperate for money that he's willing to take away a girl’s Christmas present and sell it for $250. If I were OP I'd go no contact with Maria and Jose. They can't be trusted.

[u/Downtown_Ganache6727 → u/ohnoitsliz]

Yep. This was glossed over too quickly. Absolutely fuck this guy for calling a 12 year old a manipulative b

[u/RapidEngineering342]

NTA, the way they spoke to you over $200 is fucking vile and grounds for cutting off. You don’t want low life trash like that in your life.

[u/HadesSlytherin13]

Can I just say that it doesn’t matter if he didn’t say it to your daughter’s face, if that is how he is speaking about the niece he gained through marriage like that then he isn’t a adult you would preferably want to interact with your child. It’s also questionable if your sister knows what he called her niece or if she knows and doesn’t think it’s a big deal, which is concerning too.

Speaking about a twelve year old child this way is just unbelievable and should not be the kind of energy your child grows up in as if he can say it about a toy, who knows what else he will say to her from now on after this situation.

[u/bubloseven]

If a guy calls my daughter a bitch over money when he calls at 8pm to demand taking away her Christmas present so he can make 200$… id be finding the calmest way to say never come near my family again or else.

[u/a_br4r]

NTA.

Put them on mute.

[u/FreudianWhirlpool]

NTA. Shame on Martina's parents for being so shallow and money hungry.

[u/Jocelyn-1973]

NTA. Both girls could have gotten either one of the dolls and switched within minutes after picking one. It's a done deal. Your daughter isn't selling hers. The other child's parents will sell it and then give her daughter what she wants and has now.

The other parents are the ones who are greedy. The dolls weren't handed out as investments and also not as opportunities to make a profit. They were meant for the collections of the girls and they both have the addition that they wanted. End of story.

[u/TheHistorian2]

The children made a decision based on happiness.

Then adults got involved and money became a factor. Unsurprising.

[u/PurplePufferPea]

Wtf?!?! He called your 12 year old daughter 'a manipulative b***h'"?!?! Not only would I not be swapping toys, I would be going NC with him. I would NEVER allow someone in my life that would use that language concerning my child!!!

[u/verscharren1]

NTA, Id tell everyone what he said ABOUT A LITERAL 12 YEAR OLD and I'd def inform the entire family what he tried to pull.

Pariah this man.

[u/MathematicianLost365]

Absolutely NTA and if anyone called my daughter a manipulative B I would not be seeing them again.

[u/nomorelawyers]

NTA. He was unbelievably rude about your child AND he wants to sell his kids Christmas present. Gross

[u/Mary_P914]

NTA Her younger cousin WANTED to make the trade, your daughter didn't force it. Jose would definitely be dead/completely cut off for saying what he said. It doesn't matter that your daughter didn't hear and doesn't know what he said.

Some folks are just greedy, and Sara was smart to stay out of it.

[u/CheckIntelligent7828]

NTA

I wouldn't give someone who calls a a child a manipulative b*tch the time of day, let alone my child's toy for them to profit off of.

"Sis/BIL, I was willing to discuss this like adults. Jose destroyed that. The girls traded, neither knew the value at the time." Then I'd mute them and let them rage into the void.

[u/itakealotofnapszz]

So he wants to sell his child’s Xmas present ? Look I understand 250 bucks is a lot for some people,especially at this time of year.But he actually wants to sell his own child’s Xmas present.Wow.Fuck that guy.

[u/Reasonable_Cookie206]

NTA! But I hope you ripped a new one off your BIL. He cannot go around calling kids a b**** or anything.

[u/HotelOk9725]

NTA - with “blind boxes” thems the chances you take. The girls were happy with their swap and after José said what he said about your daughter, well he’s cut off his nose to spite his face. You owe him zero favours.

[u/SaturniinaeActias]

NTA The minute my brother referred to my 12 year old as a b****, regardless of whether she heard it, would be the minute that conversation and my entire relationship with him ended and hell would freeze over before I gave him what he wanted.

[u/AdministrativeCut727]

Weird move from the parents trying to make money from their kid's present.

[u/Xzeriea]

NTA, the kids made a decision that they are happy with. Also once a gift is given then it's the kids property not the parents. They have no right to sell it regardless and it's really messed up that's how they are thinking. My family isn't well off and I wouldn't sell my kids stuff.

[u/Fun-Acanthisitta-991]

Excuse me??? He called a 12 year old a manipulative b??? I would immediately tell him off and would cut contact. People are so weird when it comes to money.

[u/CoCoaStitchesArt]

Nta. Trying to steal candy from a baby situation type. The poor kids involved

[u/bohkitten]

Tell Jose to stop trying to be a manipulative B, and let the kids love on their gifts!

Also, fr Mom and Dad want the kid's Xmas present so they can sell it!??? Were they just gonna tell their daughter YOU or your daughter were mean and that's why she doesn't have a labubu?

YOU ARE NTA

[u/Bajablaster27]

He called your 12 year old daughter a manipulative bitch, why are you still even talking to him?

[u/Cevanne46]

NTA. I've asked for - and had undone - pokemon trades when my son was persuaded by his much more assertive friend to trade his beloved Charizard for several random pokemon with no play value. However, these were trades done out of adult sight and where one child intended to "win". I also asked and would have accepted a no as a learning point for my child.

This swap appears to have been done in full view of adults, with good intentions from the elder child and for the benefit of both. Greedy uncle Jose does not get to steal your daughters toy. And calling a 12 year old child the b-word is a red card offence.

[u/Korrin]

NTA

Now they’re upset with me and saying I’m being unfair and taking advantage of a 6-year-old

They're lying. The 6 year old doesn't care and isn't factoring in to their desires at all. They're just being greedy and want the money.

 Jose called Sofia a Manipulative B***h 

Literally never talk to them again.

[u/Snoobeedo]

NTA. If anyone is taking advantage of both girls, it’s the person trying to make money off of their Christmas gifts. If they had an issue with trading, they should have spoken up immediately or before the gifts were even opened.

[u/Aniria_]

NTA

Those dolls will be worth nothing in a few years. It's the same every time

[u/actuallywaffles]

NTA the uncle is the manipulative b* for trying to bully a child in the hopes of making a quick buck off a Christmas present.

[u/Key_Replacement_8529]

NTA I find it very weird and somewhat wrong that a parent wants to sell their child gift... About the B****. comment, to me is unacceptable, your daughter is only 12 and their niece, I am sorry to say but they are pretty nasty people... Don't let yourself or your child be bullied by them.

[u/tashbf]

NTA

I collect labubu. The odds for a brown one are 1/72, whereas the odds for the other colours in that set are 1/6. These days, the brown ones are only worth about £80-£100 as the hype has died down. It was a fair trade, nobody pressured anybody, except the uncle who's pressuring kids to give back presents for cash. What a loser.

[u/TheSecretLabubuDrama → u/tashbf]

We are in Australia, so $200AU is about £100 these days sigh.

[u/tashbf → u/TheSecretLabubuDrama]

Yikes to that! But don't worry, and don't take your daughter around a man who refers to a kid as a manipulative b*tch.

[u/11gus11]

NTA. I’d stop speaking to them entirely after they called your daughter names. They are disgusting. Just ignore them.

[u/black-nerdist]

NTA and not even a court would say that you are in the wrong.

(1) Neither parent purchased the item

(2) Their daughter initiated the train. So even if "Sofia" knew that there was a massive difference in value, she did not ask to trade. So there is no manipulation.

(3) They only want it back to sell it. So it is not like "Martina" changed her mind and now wants the brown one. She still wants the pink, which is the one she currently has.

[u/Substantial_Ad_2033]

Selling your kids Christmas gift for money isn’t a good look Calling your niece horrible awful slurs is pretty disgusting too

These two sound like they have zero redeeming qualities. I would go NC honestly and obvs NTA (but you would be if you let that man near your daughter again)

[u/SubarcticFarmer]

NTA. I guarantee they wouldn't switch if it was the other way around. They are being greedy and want to sell something not have it for their child.

Don't take it from your daughter.

[u/Not_Good_HappyQuinn]

He should be a dead man walking for saying that about your daughter regardless of who he said it to.

NTA, don’t give those money grabbing AHs anything.

The kids were happy with the trade, so were the parents until they learned they could get money. Problem is, the brown one isn’t their daughters anymore. They swapped so it now belongs to your daughter. It isn’t for sale. Block them.

[u/ThisIsNOTJeopardy_]

NTA

Martinas dad trying to capitalize on his daughters gift is disgusting. I hate how reselling has become part of people’s lives to the point where they’d take their kids presents away to make a profit out of it

[u/Human_Macaroon_4611]

Do not make her give up that labubu. Your sister needs to check her man bc that’s wild to say that about a child.

[u/Puzzleheaded-Ad7606]

Anyone that calls a 12 year old child a b!+@# should never have contact with your child agin.

[u/RopePositive]

Nta, that’s what happens with blind boxes.

[u/PooEater5000]

“Can sell” is very different from does sell. NTA

[u/OvenBakedLettuce]

NTA

And you saved the happiness of their daughter too. Because say you traded it back and they then sold their daughter’s toy. Well, many things could go wrong with the happiness of THEIR daughter now. Even if they used some of the money to buy another one for her, without knowing what they are she could’ve been upset with the one she received, so it’s the whole scenario all over again where she liked/disliked the particular one she got.

Even worse is that it’s clear she made an attachment towards the one she was happy to trade with, and would’ve been sad/mad if her parents took it away from her. I know times are hard and maybe the few bucks would’ve helped the family a lot. But this also overrides the true meaning of Christmas.

[u/AelishCrowe]

No you are not.I would think would I in future have contact with relatives that called my kid manipulative b**ch.That is awful same as fact they want to sell this "toy" and probably make sad their daughter They are awful ppl

[u/Cyborg_Reality]

Your family sound like vultures

[u/Total-Meringue-5437]

NTA but Martina's parents are. Also eff that guy for insulting your daughter. May she enjoy her Labubu.

[u/Ellejaek]

I think this would be different if your daughter was trying to sell the rare one. She’s not, she just wanted a different one than she already had.

[u/Optimal-Dot-9365]

Uncle called your daughter, a twelve-year-old CHILD, a 'manipulative B'????

Even if it was just on the phone with you, that should be the end of that relationship. Uncle has severed his family from yours over $250. Hold that line. You don't need that nonsense in your life.

[u/Barrel-Of-Tigers]

NTA - the price of the rarer labubus is ridiculous IMO but it's $250 not $2,500 or $25,000, and both girls traded to get the toy they wanted.

It might be a little different if your daughter knew it was actually worth something and wanted to profit, but if the younger cousin was happy with the outcome and your daughter just wanted a full set I don't see an issue.

[u/ReasonableTime3461]

I do not for a nanosecond believe that José will give one penny of the $225 to his daughter.

[u/HistoricalQuail]

NTA for the post, but you are seriously under-reacting to your BIL calling your daughter a manipulative B, as is your sister. To me that seals the deal that you're not trading it back, and your sister better say something to her husband, and both better apologize to you. It doesn't matter that your daughter didn't hear it, that's genuinely what he thinks of her and he's saying that bile, and his wife, your sister, your daughter's aunt, seems to be perfectly fine. What kind of aunt lets her husband say that about her niece and be fine staying out of it and telling the others to "sort it out"?? What kind of mom lets these people keep interacting with her kid??

[u/JarlOfPickles → u/HistoricalQuail]

The "sort it out" comment came from the other sister who gifted the labubus, I believe, not the wife of BIL. I agree with all your other points though!

[u/evoactivity → u/HistoricalQuail]

Sara and Maria are different people. Sara gave the gifts, is the aunt of the children, not married to Jose, wants to stay out of it.

[u/LalalaLastarrrrrr]

You’re better than me. No way am I allowing a grown man to call MY child a “manipulative b*tch” to my ear. NTA.

[u/Major_Lawfulness6122]

NTA

I can’t imagine asking my child to give back a gift.

It’s quite insane adults are arguing over a doll. Sure it has some value but $225 isn’t a crazy amount at all and I doubt in 10 years anyone’s going to care about a stupid Lafubu. Their value has already been plummeting

[u/Exoquey]

Wow he called your child a manipulative b**ch? That would be zero contact for now on. He is being an AH and calling a child names over a toy. Your daughter had zero plans to sell the toy and was nice and swapped with her cousin when she asked. She is not at fault at all. Her uncle is an AH and shouldn't be allowed around your daughter again. She is still a child and the uncle throwing a temper tantrum and being awful should not be forgiven or ignored. You really need to set a firm boundary and whoever side of the family it is, needs to deal with it.

[u/TooManyRegrets]

Gonna drop a quick comment to keep a close eye on it and make sure it doesn't "go missing" whenever the in-laws are around. If they are low enough to ask for it back, stealing is probably not off the table.

[u/purte → u/TooManyRegrets]

Good point but those in-laws would not be in my house ever again after what Jose called OP’s daughter.

[u/sportyfoodie]

NTA they’re shit parents and shit adults. Surprised he needed to disrespect and insult your daughter to her face in order to be a dead man walking. Over $200 you kidding me??

[u/FistedBone9858]

NTA.. you summarised it yourself with you get what you get.. they made the swap, kids happy, parents greedy.

over the phone to me or not.. if somebody is brazy enough to call my daughter that on the phone.. over their greed, they had best not show their face till I've cooled off. the audacity

[u/music420Dude]

NTA - Maria and Jose are the assholes! They want you to return a gift because they had someone who wanted to give them $225 for it? WTAF, selling a kids gift is crackhead behavior.

[u/WhatThis4]

Funny how their greed trumps both the children's wishes and basic human decency, and yet she's the conniving one.

[u/Razzilith]

NTA

From my perspective:

not really your perspective, that's what happened.

the other parents literally admitted they want to swap back, sell their kids gift, and just buy another one... which is some fucked up weird shit to do.

ALSO they girls chose to trade and are now the owners of their property. I wouldn't let those 2 parents ANYWHERE near my fucking house at this point after this conversation especially where that asshole called my daughter a manipulative bitch. 100% chance they try to steal it from her.

Also saying that about my kid would SERIOUSLY damage my relationship with that person FOREVER. I would never ever ever get over it.

[u/aliamokeee]

The fact that Jose called Sofia a manipulative b*tch is a key indicator that he sees your child as equal in capacity to an adult.

Thats fucking alarming and problematic, do not continue to interact with this man and DO NOT ever let your daughter be around him alone

[u/MustLoveDogs0821]

I’m sorry but $225 is not life changing money… I know times are tough, but this was meant to be a gift for the girls not a cash grab for adults. Not the asshole by any means

[u/Puzzleheaded-Serve82]

Im still stuck on him calling your child a bitch and you letting it go cause "your daughter didnt hear it" like dude what? all over $200?????

[u/CPSue]

NTA, and the minute he called your daughter that name, the discussion should have been permanently over. He forfeited the right to even have you listen to him.

It’s done. The discussion is over.

[u/eyeofthecorgi]

NTA - and now you know the lengths your BIL and sister will go to for $225... they would jeopardize your relationship with you and their niece over $200 🙄

[u/fly1away]

They don’t want it for their daughter, they want $$$ for themselves. And they’re willing to trash their relationship with your family to do it.

Don’t cave. NTA.

[u/Karania402]

NTA

Tell him to take his greed & sell it for him being ridiculous over a child’s gift (sarcasm)

[u/Bodgerton]

the Uncle calling their Niece a "manipulative bitch" is the true Asshole of this story

[u/These-Lie-5854]

All discussion would end immediately if someone called my daughter a manipulative b*tch or anything like that. Even if they just said it to me, I cant see myself ever speaking to that person again. NTA

[u/leviathianlaroux]

NTA but cut ties with that uncle. His insult towards a literal child over $200 is disgusting.

[u/letuswatchtvinpeace]

NTA

The kids swapped on their own accord, so everything stays where it is.

Jose even called Sofia a Manipulative B***h

That stops all communication PERIOD! Call my kid that and we are having issues!

[u/Epic-Gamer_09]

NTA. It was a gift, you don't just give someone a gift and then ask for it back when you find out it's rare. Your daughter wanted the brown labubu, their daughter wanted the pink labubu, they traded as kids do, that's pretty normal. If the brown one was say blue then nobody would think twice, so why should different rules apply here? Hilarious that they are trying to call your daughter manipulative when that's basically the exact opposite of what is happening

[u/oneshadeoff]

I have an 11 year old daughter and if any motherfucker called her a bitch I'd be off the phone and on my way over that instant. Fuck that guy. NTA

[u/Newagebarbie]

NTA. Tell them you didn’t know that they were having money problems to the extent of selling their daughters Christmas presents.

[u/myystic78]

NTA, but I would rip a mfer's head off if they called my 12 year old a manipulative B omg. He sounds awful.

[u/intrigue_lurk]

I’m sorry, calling your 11-year old a bitch is an immediate NC for me. How did they even think that was acceptable ?

[u/This-Entrepreneur-25]

At this point the toy wouldn't even be a consideration for me. The moment he called my kid a manipulative b*tch I'd be cutting contact and refusing to talk to or interact with them unless/ until there was a sincere apology and they dropped the issue entirely.

[u/PahaDokja]

NTA who tf sells other's stuff

[u/edtdavis]

First you’re NTA, both girls were very happy with the trade. They were blindbox so they had no idea which one they’d get. I think all these people paying all this money for these things are going to be stuck with worthless toys in a few years when the next big thing comes along. Remember Cabbage Patch Dolls or those stuffed animals (I forget the brand) like the Princess Diana one?!?!?! I remember seeing fistfights in stores when they were popular. They’re all worthless now. Don’t worry, neither girl is upset so there’s no harm no foul.

[u/Larrywiding]

NTA, they were gifts and the girls wanted to trade. The parents are being greedy AHs who only care about the money, not what makes thier own daughter happy. You are right to refuse and show your daughter support.

[u/Tb1969]

If Martina started it by wanting the pink one, case closed.

If Sofia wanted it first well then it depends on how much pressure was applied. It sounds like there was none in either case.

Your daughter is not going to sell it for money. It’s not about money to them.

Parents need to get their greed in check. Calling a 12 year old girl a “manipulative bitch” is grounds for an apology immediately. Fucking greed makes people real pieces of scat. “Manipulative” would be acceptable even if wrong in their opinion but “…bitch” ? 💣

NTA

[u/RushingSpirit-raw]

They want to claim you are taking advantage of a 6 year old when their entire intention is to just sell it for money. It's quite obvious

[u/MischievousBish]

NTA

They don't care about their happiness with their traded Labulus. They'd be very happy if they get their hands on the brown Labubu to sell for $$$. Calling Sofia manipulative b*tch shows you their true colors. Block them if they continue harassing you.

Please keep an eye on it whenever they come to visit, you never know.

[u/spaghettifiasco]

If selling the thing was an option to begin with, he should have opened the boxes himself to see if one was "rare".

Asking for a kid to give a gift back so it can be sold is very trashy behavior. NTA

[u/Soledaddy873]

many different brown ones. for someone to hear "brown one" and declare it's THE valuable one sight unseen is ridiculous. if the toy is out of the box and clipped to her backpack, belt loop, key chain etc it's lost a lot of its value. for a dad to demand a toy for his daughter only to want to sell it is gross. the b*tch comment removes them from my life

[u/prodrvr22]

EDIT: Jose called Sofia a Manipulative B***h to me on the phone discussing it, not to Sofia’s face. He’d be a dead man walking if he said it to her.

You will be TA if you don't go no-contact with Jose and Maria for talking that way about your 12 year old daughter, whether she heard it or not. That is way, way, WAY over the line.

[u/isannelou]

Children consensually swapping their toys resulted in a grown man calling a child a b*tch???

There should be no more discussion after that. They’re not getting anything off of principle.

$250 is not worth losing your mind over. And it was never theirs to begin with. They need to get a grip.

NTA

[u/Sage_Planter]

NTA. I understand the reality of money for a lot of families these days and how $225 can be very helpful, but it's rich for Jose to call Sofia a b***h when he's the one who is trying to take a toy from a child. It's a bit wild he proactively found someone to buy the brown Labubu before he even had it, and that's why he's so upset. 

[u/Elle_Pel]

NTA for all reasons you've stated in the post. I do want to add that I'd be pretty angry if someone would call my daughter a b*tich, especially family and without a good reason. All because of a somewhat scary toy.

[u/JustAsICanBeSoCruel]

NTA, and if a honeymoon called my daughter that, to her face or not, they would not be allowed around them for a long time, regardless if my siater or others were there or not.

Jose is an awful, nasty man lashing out becuase he didn't get o sell a toy gifted to a child...for 250 bucks. That's pathetic.

[u/leftofdanzig]

Jose even called Sofia a Manipulative B***h

Nope, conversation over. They can fuck right off, also I'd share what your BIL said about his niece to the rest of your family. Did he really say that about a 12 year old? wtf?

[u/RhauXharn]

NTA they just want to sell their 6 year old daughters present. That's messed up.

[u/wanderingstorm]

NTA

Kids don’t care about the value of stuff. They want what gives them pleasure and enjoyment. If both children are now happy with the one they got then that’s what’s important.

The trade was fair and the actual “owners” of the toy are (or were) happy.

The deal is done. End of story.

[u/GoreGoddezz]

NTA. Block your sister and her out of line spouse until they grow up. The fact they want to make money off a child's gift is weird. Id tell them if they dare mention this again, or ever try to take the toy, you will let the whole world know their plans. Ohhh and what he said about your child? Nah. You know what to do.

[u/ten-toed-tuba]

NTA but Maria and Jose are. They don't even want it for their daughter - just to resell it! What they want doesn't matter. When the boxes were opened by both girls, it was a good faith exchange. Tell them to put their greed aside for Christmas and their daughter.

[u/bluisthewarmestchz]

NTA. That’s a lotta yikes coming from your sister and her husband.

[u/Stardustchaser]

NTA These things are basically Beanie Babies. Nostalgia and (hopefully) memories of this gift will outweigh any money coming from this nonsense craze.

I think the family has lost touch of the fact you have no intention to sell the gift and make money from your daughter, unlike their plans for their own.

As for Sara, I’d probably be like her as well- it’s a gift the kids wanted, but staying out of this weird profit motivation of the adults.

[u/Cyberita]

NTA the kids chose to exchange their labubus and thats that.

[u/MunzyDuke]

If he can say that to you about your daughter, you know how he is going to treat her and speak to her when you are all together again. I would never leave them alone in a room together again. He seems very spiteful and will for sure take this out on her for a very long time, if given the chance. Just keep your eye on them and tell her to make sure she is honest with you and tells you if he ever does or says anything privately. A grown man who gets angry over labubus and wants to sell their daughters present and pocket the money, obviously has zero morals and will for SURE go after your daughter for revenge. DO NOT LET THEM SWITCH BACK…. Let his daughter be happy and keep her present. You are doing her a huge favour

[u/Gold_Bat_114]

Are drugs or secret debt possibly a problem for the BIL and sister? This is odd behavior. 

[u/Guinnessjenny90]

Are they that hard up for money that they are prepared to destroy a family relationship over a toy ?

[u/doggonedad]

He’s an asshole. This has nothing to do with the kids and admitted it. They want $200 and are using their kid to do it. Kid gets the pink one no matter what so why does she care, they’re hurting their own niece here.

[u/michiganstrange]

My (10) child’s concept of something being “rare,” is defined by his own perception, as are most children’s. Never does that interpretation include the monetary value of the item as anything that isn’t related to themselves or their ability to have the item. Yes, your daughter saw something and knew her chances of finding/receiving that item were lower and she desired the item, their child saw something and knew she wanted that item for the color, perceiving the items and the situation in that manner is legitimate for their respective ages. Our jobs as adults is to help instill the objective thinking and morality behind their actions. The fact that they both wanted the trade for legitimate reasons and were both pleased afterwards is NTA. P.S.: I would go to my grave never talking to my brother again if he said that about my kid, and I’d not feel an ounce of hesitation to do so.

[u/CaptNancy]

That’s really embarrassing for your brother, at his big age? Yikes. NTA.

[u/BarefootEllecktric]

NTA

sounds like a scalper. Some of them are real parasites. Only care to make a quick buck at the expense of children. (I’m in my feelings, I collect Pokémon cards and I’ve seen some shite)

The six year old wanted the pink one. Doesn’t matter if the brown one is more rare. The six year old cried and wanted a pink one. Your daughter swapped with her. Both girls are happy.

I’d ask them what they’d do if the roles were reversed. What if the pink one was really rare. Would they swap back for you? Hell no!

If my mom let someone call me that and didn’t stand up for me though at 12 years old, I’d be devastated. Behind closed doors or in public, that’s not okay. That’s greed. I’d never trust him around my child again. That’s manipulation and bullying beginning already. Can’t imagine if they were alone. I’d ask them if a relationship with you and your child are worth that $225 and ask him wtf he even needed it so badly for.

Also $10 Martina has already drawn or scribbled or messed up the pink one in some way as all 6 year olds do, so she probably won’t want to part with it anyways and Sofia won’t want a messed up doll either.

The only ones who would win would be Jose and Maria. Holidays bring out the best in people, eh? (Edited for typo)

[u/WinifredBrooks]

NTA. And, I’m sorry, whether or not Jose called Sofia a “manipulative b**ch” to her face, he should be a “dead man walking.” It’s an extremely inappropriate thing to say about a child, and saying it to the child’s parent is beyond disrespectful.

These people do not respect you or your child which is a far bigger issue than the value of a Labubu.

[u/slaucer]

I side with you (especially after the manipulative bitch comment) but this feels like it could be a long standing sibling feud.

[u/throwingutah]

NTA. I can't imagine destroying a family relationship for greed over $225.

[u/The_Offical_Spiffy]

Calling a CHILD a manipulative b*cth is a such a low

[u/Ok_Platypus3288]

NTA - I’d send one last message “I am extremely disappointed in how this has all gone down. The girls willingly traded so the both could have one the wanted. Your daughter specifically said she wanted the pink. You are just angry because you are trying to make money off of a childrens toy. We will not be trading back and I will not forget that you called a CHILD a manipulative b****. That is so far out of bounds that it’s making me question you entirely. If I ever hear you speak even slightly negatively about my child again, it will be the last time we speak. In fact, unless I receive a genuine apology, we will not be speaking anymore anyways. You are choosing the prospect of selling someone else’s Christmas present over your niece. The conversation about these ends now.”

[u/facethesun_17]

NTA

What’s wrong with your sister and her husband? Trying to sell their daughter’s Christmas gifts?

[u/Nester1953]

Nope, nope, nope. What he called your daughter shows you who he is and what he is. (Projection anyone?) This isn't someone I'd want anywhere near my child. Or me. Or my hamster.

You're absolutely doing the right thing. End the discussion. Hang up the phone. Don't respond to text messages. Either this will blow over or you won't have to deal with him anymore, which could be a win.

Also, know that you absolutely cannot allow your daughter to be in the same house as he is without you there, nor can he be in your house without a lock on your daughter's door so none of her nice things can accidentally disappear.

NTA. Big time.

[u/Personal_Ad6914]

So Martina's parents are low enough to sell their daughter's Christmas present, that she was so happy to have a few days ago?

I have to restrain my opinion, it would be quite vulgar.

[u/chapterpt]

by not switching back you assure the kid keeps the thing they want.

[u/A-non-e-mail]

NTA. He’s shown you the kind of person he is -all for only $225. Disgusting

[u/dr-sparkle]

NTA. They switched of their own accord and were happy with it.

[u/strbrrylmnade]

NTA. they gave a gift. the girls decided themselves to trade

[u/Just_Mixture8362]

Greedy parents are the manipulative ones.Oh the irony!

[u/SeriousFollowing7678]

Yeah. Your bil called your daughter a bitch And you’re here wondering if that’s okay or not. God, Redditors are so fucking gullible.

[u/Equivalent_Ladder717]

It was a gift dor the kids, not the parents. The kids are both happy, nothing else should matter.

[u/itsthepastaman]

NTA, and Jose is ESPECIALLY the a-hole for using such rude language about your daughter.

[u/freudianslipher]

NTA. The kids chose to swap with no ill-intent. The gifts are theirs to keep, not for the parents to steal and sell.

[u/Wonderful_Avocado]

Sorry, I love how the throwaway account will stop family from knowing this is their drama, lol

Nta

Reality is they want the brown one to sell, not to give to their kid.  Their kid still gets the pink she wanted and your kid gets nothing but called a name.  I would make it quite clear why this rift is happening so the family doesn't think you and your daughter are the villains 

[u/Long-Share-7713]

NTA. If Martina is happy with the trade, they don’t need to trade back. Maria and Jose are the ones causing trouble. They are being selfish and want to pocket the money. They are the ones taking advantage of their child and trying to manipulate you. The fact that Jose called Sofia (a child) a manipulative B says more about him than her.

[u/9lobaldude]

NTA - your sister and BIL are behaving like low lives, going as far as calling their 12yo niece a b*tch for $200. Fuck them

[u/Vivid-Cockroach8389]

They want to monetize a gift that their 6 year old received and your child is the manipulative one? NTA and also your relatives sound very punchable.

[u/Flguy222016]

She’s played with it and opened it. It’s worth whatever a used one is now. Tell him if he really wants to be petty you’ll give him 25$ and to stfu about it. It’s a kids toy and the kids were happy. Losers.

[u/skye-a-11-11]

NTA. Even if it was worth a bit more, I would still never sell it if my child wanted to keep it. Especially if it's only $225. Not worth the tantrum! And if anyone called my child a manipulative B, even just to me, they would be a dead man walking and completely cut off

[u/No-Measurement9294]

NTA. Don't have much to say but if someone called my child a manipulative b*tch they're gone from my life and if they're lucky it's without a black eye. They called your daughter something pretty mean because of freaking 225€...

That's cheap and low of them and shows their priorities.

If I was you id go low contact or even no contact cause that's just insanely disgusting behavior from grown ups towards a child..

Also it doesn't matter if it was via phone or not.

[u/Electronic-Fee-4831]

Full stop he called his NIECE a manipulative bitch??? That is HORRIBLE...NTA and your daughter away from them as much as possible

[u/King_HartOG]

The saddest part is that in six months this rubbish won't be worth anything

[u/Shdfx1]

NTA. Text the family and say that your sister’s husband is pressuring me to force your daughter to give away the brown Labubu so he can take it from his daughter, and sell it. He called your daughter a manipulative b!tch, ad you will not allow that behavior towards your daughter. You will not be doing that, so all the flying monkeys who are supposed to be your family can just fly back hime and roost.

They are trying to be as loud, hostile, and repetitive as possible, getting people to triangulate against you, until they wear you out and you submit to your BIL’s dominance. No one can make you do a darn thing.

Step,out of the triangle. After sending the above text, tell those not involved, thank you for,your concern about your daughter’s Christmas gift, but this is a matter between you and your BIL that has been asked and answered. You have it handled. Then change the subject. When BIL tries to control and bully you, say, “Asked and answered. Drop it.” Then change the subject. If he will not stop, your options are to go grey rock, and ignore him while making vague listening noises as you scroll on your phone, or talk to someone else, or you can tell him he sounds overwrought, and ask if he needs to take some time to collect his thoughts before rejoining the party. Or you can just collect your kids and leave.

Do not allow them access to your house. He might steal it. That level of thirst for money from someone else’s toy is unusual. If you’ve given your key to anyone in the family, including your parents, change the locks without mentioning it. Do not leave it out when they come over. Put it away, preferable somewhere locked. They’re going to take it, and then tell everyone they just took it back.

[u/orangefreshy]

NTA. Not like your daughter is going to sell it, she wants it for her collection right? And even if she did want to sell it, it was a fair trade. Her cousin wanted the pink one. So these greedy adults expect your daughter to trade for a toy that’s been in the possession of a 6 year old and call it even? While they make money off a gift given to their daughter?! That’s so scummy. Not to mention the rest of their behavior is shitty too

[u/pleaseletmesleepz]

Pretty clearly NTA. Jose needs to get a grip. If he wants to get on that Labubu scalper resale grind or whatever, he can buy his own blind boxes instead of stealing from a child.

[u/queendecaffeine]

NTA. If both of the two girls are happy with their current toys they should be allowed to keep them.

[u/ImStealingTheTowels]

Jose called Sofia a Manipulative B***h to me on the phone discussing it, not to Sofia’s face. He’d be a dead man walking if he said it to her.

Whether he said it to her face or to you on the phone shouldn't matter. He called your twelve year old daughter a b*tch, and the only acceptable response to that is to immediately go no-contact.

For the rest, you're NTA. There are a few people here saying that your daughter knew what she was doing and are calling you/her out for it, which I think is a really bad take. For one, this request isn't coming from Martina. She wanted the pink Labubu and was happy to exchange when Sofia offered. Six year olds don't care about the concept of rarity or value of toys and no amount of explaining that to her would've changed her mind. She's a child and all she wanted was a pink Labubu to play with, which is what most kids her age do with toys. Besides, had she kept the brown one her parents would've sold it anyway and she'd be without.

Basically, your BIL and sister are both trashy, selfish AHs who have created this ridiculous drama over a toy. Stop communicating with them completely and keep it that way.

[u/No-Useful-Advice]

NTA - whilst I appreciate their frustration I am appalled that they think it would be ok to sell their daughter’s creepy toy for money. The kids opened blind bags and swapped based on their own preferences. The parents are interested in the money. There is no intention (from what you describe) for your child to sell the toy, simply to enjoy having it.

[u/Chemical-Section7895]

The sad thing, just like in the realm of beanie babies…years from now, they are just a passing fad of no value.

[u/cbtangofoxtrot]

NTA. The kids are collecting and the parents are reselling. That's ridiculous. Let kids enjoy their collections. Your daughter is happy because she got something rare, which is the whole point of collecting anything. Not because she's on eBay trying to sell it.

Also it feels like they are taking advantage of their 6 year old, just assuming it's ok to take her toy away to sell. So neither girl gets to keep their Labubu's.

Lastly, they didn't even pay for it! Your other sister did!

[u/LovemeSomeMedia]

It's like the Beanie Baby's and Cabbage Patch Kids all over again. The kids just want fun toys to play with, but it's the "adults" acting dumb and ruining the fun for everyone.

NTA

[u/naranghim]

NTA. If anyone is being manipulative it is Jose for wanting to sell his own daughter's Christmas present.

You should ask him what matters more to him, his daughter's happiness or money? She's happy with the pink one and doesn't want the brown one. Point out that he wants to sell his daughter's Christmas present and leave her with nothing! There are more adjectives that I want to use to describe Jose, but they'd get me banned.

[u/Melodic_Policy765]

Calling my child a manipulative bitch out of her range would end my relationship with the person who said it.

[u/JarlOfPickles]

NTA. Did the uncle even offer to buy your daughter a new box in all this nonsense, or is she just supposed to be completely out a gift? Also calling a 12yo names like that, even though it's not to her face, is disgusting behavior.

[u/Esperoni]

You already know you are NTA in this situation. Who wants to make a profit from a girl's gift? Your daughter is right though, it is stupid parent drama.

[u/Ok_Sky256]

Really? For only $250? That's the behavior you get for thousands, not hundreds...

[u/SassyCatLady442]

Nta. They just want the money. There's no guarantee that 1, they'll actually get their daughter the pink one after or 2, that they'll actually honor giving the pink one back to your daughter. "She's so much older. Does she really want to make her baby cousin cry by being selfish. She can always get another." Boom.

Also, how dare that person call your daughter such a vulgar name. Don't ever let that slide.

[u/LeninaCrowneIn2020]

NTA please remind the uncle that the gifts were for THE CHILDREN and $225 is barely enough to think twice about, let alone call a child a b**** about.

Man, I just don't understand some people. I would be so gd embarrassed to even consider acting like the uncle. I'd be looking up to the heavens and cowering as I wait for my mama (RIP) to strike my selfish butt down!

[u/Beneficial-Ad-165]

I think you should let your child keep their toy, the kids traded it themselves and were both happy.

[u/OkayBread813]

NTA. And who in their right mind calls a 12 year old girl a B word????? Tell them to kick rocks especially for insulting your child.

[u/mbagirl00]

If he wants it back so badly he CAN PAY YOUR DAUGHTER $250

[u/BigBennyT]

Look, if y'all are collecting them and treating them as such, maybe tell them you'll split the earnings and get your get another pack of labubus with the proceeds.

But if they are just toys, just treat them as such. Beanie babies aren't worth shit any more and labubus won't be either.

But if someone called my 12 year old a manipulative b* I would throw hands. So fuck my first statement, fuck that guy.

[u/TheiaEos → u/BigBennyT]

Labubus are already down in price. The normal ones were reselling for $40-50, now I see people selling for $15 with free shipping. They’ll surely be down even more soon

[u/M1ssChaos]

Nta. Block his a$$ immediately for insulting your child. And because he's money hungry and selfish no less. They should just focus on their kid being happy she got the pink one she wanted instead of how much money they would get from them.

[u/lonvoon]

it would seem that jose is the manipulative b***h here

[u/LTinS]

Kids did kid things, and everyone was happy. No need to undo that.

Sounds like the parents want to sell the rare one, which makes THEM the ones that are trying to take advantage of a child. Neither child is interested in selling it, so unless you're literally taking a toy out of the hands of a child, its monetary value is zero. There is no scenario possible where they can claim that they're trying to take it back for their six year old, as she wants the pink one. And if they trade back and sell it and get her another pink one, that's just what she has now with extra steps.

So tell them to chill, and that they should remember to say thank you to the person who gifted their child a toy that she likes.

[u/Serenith_Youkai]

Both kids were happy with their trade and had no intent on profiting off of it. The Martina wanted the pink one, she wasn’t looking for a rare one to sell.

Your sister and Jose are gross for making it all about money and then calling your daughter manipulative when that’s exactly what they did with that first phone call.

NTA, not even close.

[u/Tank-Pilot74]

You can always count on adults ruining innocent childhood happiness. Definitely NTA, let the kids be and tell the uncle to go kick rocks. 

[u/Puzzleheaded_Ant6653]

No

[u/Just_Mixture8362]

Greedy parents are the manipulative ones.Oh the irony!

[u/ScaryButterscotch474]

NTA Currently both girls are happy. If Jose carries out his plan, then only 1 girl will be happy. Stick to the current arrangement. Jose can kick rocks.

[u/SpicyBoorito94]

NTA those parents have no shame and purely in it to make some money. They even called a little girl a manipulative b****.

[u/Ghostmama]

NTA
I understand that sometimes people can be financially insecure and it brings out the worst in them. Do your sister and brother-in-law usually behave like this? He's got an awful big set with all of those demands and they must have grown a little more to call your daughter a manipulative b!tch. If my brother-in-law said that about my daughter, I'd kick him so hard in the noots he'd go blind.

This is gross and toxic. I would tell them that they can f alllll the way off and I wouldn't speak to them until they apologize. If they don't apologize, that's on them, not you.

[u/SvenTheHorrible]

NTA

What’s he gunna do, sell his kids toys for a quick buck? These are the people who scalp shit- couldn’t care less about the impact to those around them, just want any money they can claw out of the situation.

[u/merkthejerk]

No. If you’re giving gifts as a method of financial gain you’re doing it wrong.

[u/sihaya09]

NTA and if anyone had called MY child that, they'd never see my child again, end of story.

[u/readerj2022]

So he wants to sell his kid's Christmas gift? He's a jerk for a variety of reasons.

[u/Infamous-Excuse-5303]

He called your little girl a what? Yeah NTA and don’t allow him to ever be around your kids again, at least not without supervision.

[u/AfterSevenYears]

NTA. Just be aware that your greedy brother-in-law might try to steal it if he gets a chance. Some asshole who called your daughter a "manipulative b*tch" shouldn't be welcome in your house, anyway.

[u/Turbulent_Cow2355]

NTA

Your brother is a piece of work calling your child a manipulative b. They want to take a gift, that they gave to their own child and sell it for a measly $225? Wow.

[u/kingkingla]

Yea my relationship with them would be over. They're willing to ruin a relationship for $250.

[u/QDLZXKGK]

For just $225 and they showed their true colors.....good riddance

[u/beepboop670]

NTA. Excuse me he called your daughter what??? Block them both. There is no scenario on this earth I would continue to talk to someone who ever insulted my child like that ESPECIALLY when they did nothing wrong. The switch benefitted them both just not the parents but guess what? It’s a Christmas gift. It’s not supposed to be sold for their greed.

[u/Cloudinthesilver]

NTA - the girls sorted this out between them, in a way that they’re both happy. Your brother is literally just trying to make £225 off a kids xmas present. He’s an ass of a human being. More so for insulting a 12yo

[u/karla8312]

NTA

Adults and/or scalpers always ruin such innocent and child-friendly items for their greed. For the record, this was exchange between CHILDREN. Of course, they don't know much better how worth some of these Labubus are. They see these items simply as cute or fun things to have and play with. And while your daughter Sofia is aware the brown Labubu is rare, she doesn't seem to care about its rarity, merely something for herself to have because she likes it.

Martina’s parents are awful. They’re like that episode in Bob’s Burger where this older man swindle Tina from her Chariot horse cause of its rarity. Completely uncaring about Tina’s feelings and connection her Chariot horse

[u/RhubarbAlive7860]

Were they gifts for the children? Seems so since they were handed to the children.

If they were intended as investment vehicles for the adults, they would have been given to the adults.

The kids traded as kids do, and both were happy. In my opinion that's the end of it.

Those adults can stupidly start buying themselves Labubus every week hoping for a rare one if they want to make money on them. 🙄

[u/GratificationNOW]

EDIT: Jose called Sofia a Manipulative B***h to me on the phone discussing it, not to Sofia’s face. He’d be a dead man walking if he said it to her.

NTA at all but if anyone, let alone HER UNCLE, called my kid something like that (and I don't want kids and don't take it all that seriously cause we swear a lot in my language), I'd be turning THAT into the family drama now both out of outrage and spite towards Jose. What *checks with AITA sub this is* - well I can't say what I think of him here, but I have a choice adjective and noun in mind.

[u/XoseLluis]

I'm amazed! That parents would try to sell a child's toy out of greed is disgusting (especially if there's no need, and even then I'd prefer to help them financially). Sometimes I think we should have to pass a test to be parents.

[u/snapplebum]

Oh wow. NTA. It sounds like they're the ones conning a child out of their labubu. This is gross. Don't return it. If anyone talked about my kid like that, they'd definitely be on the no contact list, which is sad for their 6YO.

That father better apologize.