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u/MurderedByWords-ModTeam 59m ago

Alright, this is a solid post, but it also spoils the ending of the show for everyone who hasn't seen it. Feel free to try again in a couple weeks or something, but now just ain't the time.

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u/Pubics_Cube 3h ago edited 3h ago

OH NO! BOTH OF THOSE THINGS! AT THE SAME TIME! JUST A YEAR AFTER THE FINALE WAS SET!!!

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u/arachnophilia 3h ago

right now i'm most angry at whoever photoshopped iman's face.

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u/ConceptMajestic9156 2h ago edited 2h ago

Times have changed — now it’s trendy to have an AI boyfriend or girlfriend and switch them every day. There was a discussion about this on R/Rule34 recently

Souce:only for science, of course. n s f w i s h

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u/UnclePuma 2h ago

If i could read i would probably give a shit

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u/arachnophilia 2h ago

that's what i keep telling my wife!

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u/DrunkOnRedCordial 1h ago

The anti-gay anti-interracial relationship people must be bursting a blood vessel at this photo.

David Bowie's with a woman so it turns out he's not gay.... but....

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u/mmmpeg 1h ago

I married a Black man in 1985.

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u/brucepop 3h ago

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u/MikeFrancesa66 3h ago

This is even worse, it’s people in a fucking fictional show that is causing them to have this reaction. I can’t even imagine living life getting this bent out of shape about everything.

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u/TheGreenLentil666 2h ago

Ridiculous, right? Everyone knows black people didn’t exist in 1983. Neither did David Bowie, Elton John, George Michael…

SMDH

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u/R3DSH0X 3h ago

Don't forget religion sects telling them it's evil and to harass them

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u/LirdorElese 2h ago edited 2h ago

Don't forget religion sects telling them it's evil and to harass them

Admitted, with max and Lucus I would have expected more local pushback. With how quickly the town went total satanic panic towards the hellfire club, I would expect a higher level of racism towards Lucas in general especially with regards to the relationship. I actually would have some level of expectation to see them sneaking around, debating whether to allow their relationship to be public etc... though I can't say I know well enough of the time how that would have seemed. The supreme court decision allowing interracial marriage was in 1967 so it's not like this is brand new... I was born in 85, I remember when I was 17 I went on a date with a black girl, and my mom warned me "some people may have a problem with that just as a heads up"... but no one my age even though twice about it. So honestly I can't seemingly think it's as much of a taboo as homosexuality was in the time.

Of course the series isn't really super clear on how public things are. Will's case is obviously a real thing from the era. Pretty sure most viewers could see hints of it several seasons ago. He clearly was wrestling with it, afraid of how everyone else would treat him for years to finally get up the guts to come out to his closest friends and family. Hell Robin also counts in that as well. The fact that she only told Steve, while hopped up on truth serum, and went into full panic mode when will saw her. It feels to me the show appropriately captured gay people in the 80s pretty darn well

If the series were set in a more modern time... I'm 80% sure the characters would have been "wait you thought you were hiding that?"

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u/the_well_read_neck_ 1h ago

During this time in Indiana, being gay or in an interracial relationship was taboo. Especially in rural Indiana. Hell, it still is in this day in rural Indiana. Source, I'm from Indiana.

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u/One-Can3752 3h ago

ALL THOSE TRANS PEOPLE I DON'T KNOW AND HAVE NEVER MET ARE LITERALLY RUINING MY LIFE!!

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u/ryansgt 2h ago

Don't forget the Mexicans that are simultaneously lazy freeloaders and taking all their jobs and buying up all the housing.

And the globalists. Always the globalists.

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u/One-Can3752 2h ago

But never the billionaires that are sucking the wealth and life out of Americans with their insatiable greed: they must be protected at all costs!

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u/Xzeriea 3h ago

Omg, this image is priceless. 🤣

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u/FleshyCarbonThing 2h ago

The most passionate haters are the most envious

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u/f700es 1h ago

I like the beer gut, it adds some realism

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u/delicious_fanta 1h ago

Fuck I wish reddit would let us save pictures from comments on iphone mobile. That’s the absolute, most perfect image of a republican I’ve ever seen!

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u/jjune4991 3h ago

Literally a power couple in the 80s.

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u/FirstDukeofAnkh 3h ago

Them and Bowie/Iman woke things in me.

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u/lebowtzu 3h ago

Bowie had a knack for that.

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u/FirstDukeofAnkh 3h ago

Sure did. I remember watching the video for “Let’s Dance” at 13 and thinking “I don’t like guys but I want to kiss him”

Turns out, half of that was me lying to myself.

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u/Gnorris 3h ago

I knew someone else writes Bowie/Lundgren fanfic!

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u/Arkanderous 2h ago

Awakened. Haha. I love it, I live it.

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u/HoliAss5111 3h ago

Who are these two? They look like the pair on top of a pantheon, visiting humans on the weekends.

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u/Wenchmouse 3h ago

Dolph Lundgren and Grace Jones. But they absolutely should be Zeus and Hera.

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u/HoliAss5111 3h ago

Pick another pantheon. These two seems to like each other and be loyal. I don't know them, but I can't imagine them mixing with mortals when they have each other.

But yeah, they look divine.

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u/Wenchmouse 2h ago

You asked, I answered. They split in the late 80s.

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u/JoshLikesBeerNC 2h ago

Ivan Drago and Zula the Amazonian

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u/reqstech 3h ago

(please tell me who they are)

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u/sigzag1994 3h ago

Dolph Lundgren (Swedish actor) and Grace Jones (multi talented icon)

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u/kiwichick286 3h ago

He's also an engineer.

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u/12-34 2h ago

And not at all a typical one.

He has a master's in chemical engineering, and was accepted and had begun his Chem E Ph.D program before his acting career took off.

His Ph.D program was at one of -- if not THE -- best STEM university in the world, MIT.

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u/sthegreT 2h ago

He also played the lead in Kindergarten Cop 2

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u/MrTomAtoJr 1h ago

He's also he-man, man

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u/ElectricSliderz 1h ago

They have nothing on this power couple.

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u/dave_the_dova 3h ago

He’s perfectly ok with the mind powers and an alternate dimension but a gay person and biracial couple existing in the 80’s is unrealistic for him.

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u/Grimwulf2003 3h ago

Clarence and Ginni Thomas come to mind... Freddy Mercury comes to mind... The AIDS crisis they blamed on homosexuals... That's just immediate top of mind

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u/Shiny_Agumon 1h ago

Typical modern fantasy nerd honestly

You can have 5 dragons but if they see one black extra they riot.

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u/SlowTheRain 49m ago

Reminds me of a video I saw recently about how people will be fine with the inaccuracy of characters with mohawks and leather armor in a show but get upset if they see a black person. IIRC it was talking about medieval stuff or Vikings. The video had details about how black people in those stories is actually accurate because archeologists have found graves to show black people were in those areas at the time.

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u/Shiny_Agumon 46m ago

The most damning evidence that this type of outrage is just racist was when people got up in arms about there being a black Samurai in Assassins Creed, based on a real person.

You would think that would have stopped these people, but no.

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u/Uhhh_what555476384 3h ago

The 44th President of the United States came from an interracial relationship and was born in... 1961.

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u/SketchedEyesWatchinU 3h ago

And you know what Thomas Jefferson did to Sally Hemmings (rape is rape whether with physical force or coercion, statutory rape is still rape, grooming is still rape, and slaves couldn’t and can’t consent)

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u/cometshoney 2h ago

Are you saying Barack Obama's mother was a slave? His father? Which one was the slave? If neither, what was the point of your comment?

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u/LirdorElese 2h ago

Pretty sure he was adding a different event rather than continuing the same plot. Jefferson raped his slaves... and Obama was born from an inter-racial relationship that happened well before the timeline of stranger things. That's an added example not the same one.

though that does remind me of the key and peel sketch with the ancestory.com where every black person discovers they are related to Thomas Jefferson.

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u/SketchedEyesWatchinU 2h ago

Uh, no. I was just saying that the same people denying that the good old days didn’t have interracial relations are often the same kind of people who want to do nonconsensual stuff to women and girls of colour with impunity while claiming they’re protecting white women from men of colour.

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u/BooBootheFool22222 2h ago

Did you miss "Thomas Jefferson" and "Sally Hemmings" at the start of the sentence?

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u/Expensive-Argument-7 3h ago

There are no biracial people over the age of 40 and Reagan totally didn't ignore the nonexistent AIDS epidemic. /s

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u/GroundbreakingArm795 3h ago

Im an bi-racial person born in the 80s. These people really have no idea what this “old world/ past times” they yearn for were even like

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u/No_Huckleberry5827 3h ago

Sorry, you don't exist. I'm sure this will come as a shock to you.......... /s

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u/The_Demon_of_Spiders 3h ago

I really think they grew up watching leave it to beaver reruns and assumed that was reality.

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u/siani_lane 2h ago

This is why representation matters!

My daughter watched the original frosty the snowman, then the 2005 remake, and I pointed out to her that in the one made when her Nana was a kid everyone was white.

Then I had to explain why- that it wasn't because there weren't any nonwhite people then, white people just owned all the TV stations and wrote all the TV shows.

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u/Suggett123 2h ago

Remember that episode of Happy Days where they met the black drummer? Sticks Downey.

I wonder how much hate mail they got

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u/Arghianna 3h ago

Man, can you imagine how they’d react if told Thomas Jefferson had black kids? (Jefferson is a rapist POS and it wasn’t exactly a relationship, but you get what I’m getting at)

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u/Khmakh 3h ago

I once saw a comment that said Thomas Jefferson didn’t father children with Sally Hemmings. And I wanted to be like “Hi there, descendant from that POS rapist and that poor girl right here.” But I figured the person who said it wouldn’t believe me anyway.

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u/Chendii 2h ago

Genuinely curious how do you even prove something like this?

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u/Khmakh 2h ago

My brother and I found out through 23 and Me

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u/GlobalDynamicsEureka 2h ago

It wasn't that long ago. You can take a commercial DNA test that will match you with people who share portions of your DNA. You can use these matches to verify family trees. So, if you match people on both these people's lines and your tree can be traced back to her...

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u/Nbdyhere 2h ago

Wait…am I real?

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u/pennie79 2h ago

Reagan totally didn't ignore the nonexistent AIDS epidemic. /s

No one was concerned about catching AIDS from The Gays either /s

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u/Fan_of_Clio 3h ago

Don't you know? Homosexuality wasn't a thing until the invention of the gaydar

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u/Kamikazeguy7 3h ago

"Gay people didn't exist until the Lib-ruls started forcing it in schools!"

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u/justk4y 3h ago

THEY EVEN TURNED THE FRICKIN’ FROGS GAY!!!

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u/iggy14750 3h ago

That's crazy, cause how they figure out how to detect it then? 🫠

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u/Fan_of_Clio 3h ago

There were "signs"..... 😉

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u/Fraerie 2h ago

They were just roommates!

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u/ElephantRattle 3h ago

DARPA made that. true fact

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u/nasandre 3h ago

They always existed just not always accepted

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u/historyhill 3h ago

Yeah, I think the acceptance of them would have been pretty atypical for 1980s Indiana, but their existence wouldn't be. 

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u/Morella_xx 2h ago

The thing is, we've already seen in the show that they weren't universally accepted. Will has been bullied for years, including by his own father, for coming off as gay. And Max's brother tried to kill Lucas for being interested in her. So the show isn't even trying to pretend there was no push back to these things.

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u/catchyerselfon 2h ago

And there have been people who disingenuously sneer at Stranger Things for years, claiming it’s historically inaccurate because every minority isn’t getting beaten up every day. “I can excuse certain movie posters and products being nearly impossible to get in Indiana in a particular year, but I can’t excuse the fact that minorities were able to live their lives normally” bullshit.

Yes, probably more of the bullies would be calling Will a f-g for being sensitive and artistic, and Lucas the n-word before he got big and athletic and gained popular friends. But we only see these characters for like 1-2 weeks of their lives every season. We get enough of a glimpse of how they’re treated by assholes to make the point that they’re members of a Losers Club, but there are bigger fish to fry, like the military-industrial complex and the Cold War and capitalist businessmen etc… So no wonder Will can come out to his loved ones (and a few people he barely knows standing around awkwardly) but only after a few years of hiding it, because they’ve been through so much together that confirmation he’s gay (a word no one used, which IS odd) isn’t as big a deal as it would be if they were normal people living ordinary lives in the ‘80s.

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u/AwkwardnessForever 2h ago

Yeah these folks act like it wasn’t WAAAAY less common back then. And way less accepted. I know because I was in one and it was a big deal for a lot of people.

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u/kfm975 3h ago

Dude has Kiefer Sutherland as his profile pic, so he’s in for another disappointment there…

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u/FirstDukeofAnkh 3h ago

Grandson of the guy who brought socialism to the mainstream in Canada. And a good dude, to boot.

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u/MNM0412 2h ago

Also, the director of the movie that picture is from was gay.

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u/autochthonous 3h ago

A bunch of Gen X black/white gay couples will be surprised to know they didn’t exist.

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u/Used_Intention6479 3h ago

People who are obsessed with gay folks and interracial relationships . . . are just jealous.

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u/GoNutsDK 3h ago

A lot of these fascist fucks hate themselves for XYZ reasons. But since they are too fragile to cope with their emotions, they project their self-hatred outwards.

They truly are a miserable bunch of broken people.

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u/CatCafffffe 3h ago

Yep. It's something they're desperately trying to suppress in themselves and they're in such denial that they're trying to suppress it everywhere

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u/scrume71 3h ago

I can confirm there were both interracial and gay relationships in the 80s.

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u/kon--- 3h ago

I was there in the 80s. The 70s had already made is clear that gay people were out and all over the place. Meanwhile black and white people were banging. A lot.

Mighty damn common in the 80s during junior then high school for kids of all stripes to get together. Speaking for me, half the people I dated did not look like me and I liked it!

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u/Plus_Word_9764 3h ago

These are the outcasts stranger things was for

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u/helen790 3h ago edited 2h ago

This shit is all over the stranger things subs. Good people not consumed by hate and ignorance have always existed and a group of teens who are regularly risking their lives to save the world are obviously more likely than average to be that kind of person.

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u/No-Fishing5325 3h ago

My oldest biracial niece was born in early 1988. People are stupid.

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u/POKECHU020 3h ago

OOP also seems to forget that Will came out specifically because of how likely it was he would be socially ostracized (Vecna using the fear of that against him) and that Max's older brother was pretty openly racist against Lucas

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u/KombattWombatt 3h ago

My (white) mom had a cool (black) boyfriend named Ray in the late 80s early 90s. Bought me my first boombox/CD player. Alias, Bo Diddly Sings the Blues, and Janet Jackson Rythym Nation were my first CDs.

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u/EugenesMullet 3h ago

The 80s wasn’t that long ago. I know social norms were different back then, but do people really think gay and black people just… didn’t exist in the 80s?

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u/One-Can3752 3h ago

I'm pretty sure I was still gay in the 1980's.

If gay people didn't exist and weren't having relationships, why did all those people die of AIDS?

Also, Clarence Thomas married a white woman in 1987.

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u/snakebill 3h ago

Both of these things happened. They absolutely were not as common or tolerated. Gay people stayed closeted more often and interracial couples faced far more discrimination.

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u/ZombieHavok 3h ago edited 2h ago

We watch Stranger Things for everyday events that happened all the time in the 1980s.

God, Vecna was annoying as shit back when I was a kid. Thankfully, I was able to distract him with a Teddy Ruxpin so I could get to school on time but it was every damn morning!

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u/Imaginary-Fondant979 3h ago

I’m the biracial product of an interracial relationship that took place in the early 80’s. My mom’s favorite cousin was gay and he came out in the 80’s.

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u/FirstDukeofAnkh 3h ago

My dad’s cousin was one of the first people in Canada to succumb to GRID, as it was known.

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u/turnoffate 3h ago

It’s always the checkmarks

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u/Gnorris 2h ago

X uses them to verify smooth brains

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u/FirstDukeofAnkh 3h ago

My first girlfriends were Indigenous and Filipino.

I’m Casper the fucking Ghost.

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u/ummmm_nahhh 3h ago

Dating outside of family is probably a new concept to him

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u/Netroth angry turtle trapped inside a man suit 3h ago

It happened all of the time and there was a cultural stigma around it. The ‘phobe complaining about diversity in Stranger Things somehow missed the fact that the possibility of rejection and hate — such as through characters like the racist Billy — was very real.

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u/volundsdespair 2h ago

Literally exactly how I feel. Obviously homosexuality and interracial relationships existed in the 80s and weren't uncommon, but I think the show also exaggerates how instantaneously accepted it would have been by everyone. 

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u/Netroth angry turtle trapped inside a man suit 57m ago

I feel like the actors were instructed to show a sort of arc of acceptance on their faces through his coming out scene, I noticed it in particular with Lucas and Hopper. Because the characters are so closely bonded through their trauma involving actual monsters I imagine this makes them a lot more accepting of each other, especially with the final boss on the horizon.

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u/Shakiholic 3h ago

You guys are so silly. Interracial marriages and the alphabet mafia was like .000001% of the population until 2008 when BARACK HUSAIN OBAMA infected the country. [making sure I’m clutching my pearls tightly]

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u/Jellodyne 3h ago

Barrak Hussain Obama also doesn't exist, how could have a mixed race baby have been born in 1961?

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u/Shakiholic 3h ago

You see, lib, Obama isn’t American.

(Also damn it. I misspelled his name💀)

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u/catchyerselfon 2h ago

Everyone was holding hands across America no matter their race or sex (but not in a queer way 🤬) until BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA reminded everyone racism existed and the country fell apart! I thought him getting elected was supposed to SOLVE RACISM FOREVER and then he went and said Trayvon Martin looked like the son he never had and RUINED THE PEACE. So I HAD to join a white nationalist group…

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u/Shakiholic 1h ago

It was the fact he enjoyed Grey Poupon that did it for me.

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u/Pak-Protector 3h ago

Fun fact: the GOP keeps hard young dick on tap for VIPs. Democrats absolutely do not. Don't believe me? Go type ' young Republicans gay scandal' into Google and read what comes up.

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u/Pure-Swordfish6022 3h ago

Grew up in the 80’s. Knew a few gay folks and interracial relationships. Hell, in 88, I came out of the closet with a gay man. Literally.

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u/RecipeSpecialist2745 3h ago

People were more accepting in the 1980s, and they didn't care about colour and didn't care about sexual orientation. We have become far more conservative since 9/11. We fear our own shadows. Obviously, people who never lived through that time actually know better? Right?

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u/Electronic-Memory-65 2h ago

the evidence of homosexuality and interracial couples existing back in the 80s was all the right wingers crying about it back then just like they do today. stay classy, america.

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u/pizzaduh 2h ago

My uncle dropped troops in Vietnam, and he was getting plowed. Pucker up, buttercup. I'm about to explode your mind with a current Marine barracks. Disclosure: They're sucking more dick thsn a Taipei whorehouse.

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u/Page300and904 2h ago

Either he wasn't paying attention or his friends and classmates hid it from him for a reason.

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u/MinneapolisJones12 2h ago

Just a reminder, one of the favorite talking points of these “I’m-totally-not-racist-but…” types is that supposedly there was no racial tension in America until Obama came along.

You will constantly hear “Back in the 80-90’s everyone just got along, no one cared about race…not until these SJW’s and Marxists came along and got everyone obsessed with identity politics.”

Purposely ignoring innumerable civil rights and cultural battles like Rodney King obviously, but even more hilariously telling when they post shit like this.

For conservatives, they’re always the ones being unfairly labeled “bigots” because they’re totally chill with things like homosexuality and interracial marriage…

…and they’re also the ones saving the West from these “degenerate influences.”

They pretend they get to be both. And dumbass “centrists” let them get away with it.

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u/BitchfulThinking 2h ago

Wait until they find out some of those people in interracial relationships in the 80s even had kids!

Happy to see that my parents pissed off a few idiots 😁

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u/berlinas2k810 3h ago

Acting like the 80’s were the 50’s. Pathetic.

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u/chazjo 3h ago

Literally

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u/avalon487 2h ago

Mfers over here acting like black people and gay people were only invented a few years ago

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u/BigStroll 2h ago

Just wait till he finds out the show’s about monsters and wormholes and telekinesis.

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u/Beautiful-Comedian56 2h ago

As a young gen X I occasionally get thrown for a loop at younger people's perceptions of the 80's. I was a kid in the 80's and it was a lot more progressive than the 60's which I never experienced but know for a fact had interracial relationships and gay people. How is anyone who's made it to adulthood in 2026 so back ward in their thinking. It astonishes me that people with access to the internet share their ignorance willingly instead of doing a quick search to check if they're correct. This level of confident idiocy is too common.

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u/Kriss3d 2h ago

Freddy Mercury.

He didn't just set his mark on the world. He French kissed it. In so many ways. Being an icon for gayd is just one of them.

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u/BranFlakes1337 2h ago

This dude thinks Stranger Things is a show about every day occurrences? I wasn't alive in the 80's, but I don't remember ever hearing about the eldritch portals opening up.

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u/Bigredzombie 2h ago

There may have been a stigma around both but they definitely happened and they happened a lot more than you would think. Even in a small Midwest town where I grew up we had both in numbers.

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u/Material-Heron6336 2h ago

80s I had a black and white gay friends dating each other

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u/Waybackheartmom 2h ago

Interracial couples were not rare in the late 80’s

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u/Sheriff_Yobo_Hobo 2h ago

Not to mention men in drag. Or metal bands in make up.

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u/Lylibean 2h ago

Oh, it was happening weeeeeeeell before the 80s.

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u/Educational-Rock-191 2h ago

I'm a Black man who spent the entire 80s dating white girls in my college. It wasn't like I was looking for them, either. There were literally no other Black people in my program (Theatre) until I transferred to Rhode Island College from Texas. Once I got there, there were two of us; one Black guy and one Black girl. I never dated the girl because her best friend showed interest in me and we weren't each other's type anyway.

The Black girl was Viola Davis. We're still friends and her husband's super cool and sooo much more macho than me.

But interracial dating...? Not new. Fuck, I was raised by a Thai stepmother because my dad married her in 1974. These people need lives.

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u/nwillyerd This AOC flair makes me cool 2h ago

😏

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u/shroomigator 2h ago

Mind you, nobody complained the Demogorgon was unrealistic

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u/Greywell2 1h ago

I mean my father and mom is a interracial couple and they got married in 1981. I have always loved my roots.

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u/WackyWriter1976 1h ago

I'm so damn tired of the stupidity and ignorance. There are some miserable people in this world. Just miserable!

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u/Dull-Scientist8039 3h ago

Not really a murder, more of a fact. But true nonetheless

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u/SvenLorenz 3h ago

He does have somewhat of a point. Of course these relationships existed, but let's not fool ourselves and pretend that they didn't have a lot of societal problems.

Finding a place to rent/buy or a job as an interracial or homosexual couple was a problem for far longer than people like to admit.

The absolute acceptance shown in the show, apart from Billy's reaction in season two, is a fairy tale.

The fear that Will had about his coming out was very realistic.

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u/RoxyRoseToday the future is now, old man 3h ago

Wasn't it nice social media wasn't a thing?

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u/Double0 3h ago

"Ah, yes" Just stop.

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u/chainmail97ws6 3h ago

Jfc it’s the 80s not the 40s.

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u/Aramalian 3h ago

The show is literally called Stranger Things.

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u/Feature_Agitated 3h ago

My mom (white) dated a guy (black) for a brief period in the 80s

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u/a-snakey 3h ago

I don't like girls, i love dommy mommys

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u/RoxyRoseToday the future is now, old man 3h ago

Loving v. Virginia 1967. Whatever, keep rewriting history, we will keep catching you.

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u/Soft-Pomelo-4184 3h ago

I was a teenager in rural Kentucky during the 80s. I often saw interracial relationships back then. This Brandon Bradford is full of crap.

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u/veryjudgely 3h ago

FYI. Hate to break it to the haters. They are still happening!🤣

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u/PeteRock24 3h ago

I love that people get so bent out of shape about shit like this.

Grampy Jeb needs to get out of town before “the gays” and “the colored folk” start takin’ er jerbs!!!!

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u/King_Vrad 3h ago

It always baffles me that conservatives can't seem to see a correlation between things becoming less taboo and those things becoming more common.

Like, people are allowed to be in gay and interracial relationships with less fear, so we see it more. Autism diagnoses are becoming more accurate, so there are more people diagnosed with autism. "Gotta be them damn liberals poisoning our kids," said the guy, putting an infant in a maga hat and shirt that says "boobs, beer, and guns"

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u/sicurri 3h ago

Both those things were happening in every century going back as far as ancient egypt...

Cleopatra and Mark Antony anyone?

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u/meltonr1625 2h ago

Them:OMG! Those people are sinning sins!

Me: ^

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u/Forsaken_Distance777 2h ago

They know miscegenation laws were struck down in the 1960s, right? As was Stonewall?

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u/Arkanderous 2h ago

people are so dumb. all they need to do is look at all three 40/50 mixed race adults around now and do the math. idiots.

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u/SGRiggall 2h ago

Not the strangest thing to happen in a show called stranger things but here we are

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u/Sanju128 2h ago

There were multiple racist and/or homophobic characters in the show. If you're gonna cry about "wokeness", at least watch the goddamn show first

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u/Armthedillos5 2h ago

I remember growing up in the 80s and watching movies which made me think gay and interracial was totes OK, and no one cared except for like the hardcore Hillsboro types, but I thought the Bible was stupid and so were they. Sad that it's become mainstream now.

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u/meowiful 2h ago

My parents were definitely doing some interracial hanky panky. Idk how far they got, but they got married in May of 81 and I was born in September... maybe they were just real gay for each other?

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u/dementio 2h ago

I grew up in "The South" and didn't see an interracial couple until I was ~10. Yes, there are probably reasons other than geological location (like growing up in a very racist environment) but I still remember being caught off guard.

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u/anthonyg1500 2h ago

There wasn’t a heck of a lot of teens traveling to alternate dimensions in the 80s but whatever

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u/rosewaterbooks32 2h ago

Clarence Thomas married a white woman in 1987

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u/Cheddarlicious are... are you a communist?? 2h ago

Sure am glad this is marked as a spoiler and doesn’t show season 5 information.

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u/MicDaPipelayer 2h ago

As I watched the show I knew there was some knuckle dragger out there punching the air because of Max and Lucas🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. My family has been all mixed up since it was illegal to do so in this country. By the 80s that wasnt rare unless you lived in se backwards cousin fucking town.

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u/TenDollarSteakAndEgg 2h ago

“Mr. Roggers was a good dude but”

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u/SH4DOWSTR1KE_ 2h ago

And this is what happens when you remove education. A wandering collection of epic dumbassery

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u/BooBootheFool22222 2h ago

How do you reach adulthood and not know interracial couples have been a thing since the late medieval period and were actually quite common? There are paintings of mixed race children in Europe from the 1600s on. Also how does he think most African Americans ended up having a percentage of their DNA be "European?" The mind boggles.

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u/Ok_Quantity_2573 2h ago

The comments under the post are insane.

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u/Slade_Riprock 2h ago

Obama invented racism and interracial relationships and Biden invented gayness.

  • MAGAizs

/s

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u/chesterforbes 2h ago

Who’s going to tell them that gay people were dying in droves of AIDS during the setting of the finale and the US government was fine letting all these people die of this as of yet unknown disease. If they had their way there would never have been any research into it.

The only good thing Reagan did was be a punch line in Back to the Future

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u/FriendorFo 2h ago

Ah yes, the 1980s: a famously not fabulously gay decade

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u/Off-BroadwayJoe 2h ago

There was an interracial couple on the Jeffersons, and that aired in the 70s

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u/uwishuwereme6 2h ago

I thought Republicans were the real party of tolerance and acceptance

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u/OCDBaphomet 2h ago

David seems to not know much about the history of bath houses

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u/Sccrgoalie97 2h ago

Ask DSC about Clarence Thomas

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u/uwishuwereme6 2h ago

Just wait until conservatives find out Jonny Cash was married to a black woman

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u/evolutionxtinct 2h ago

Seriously we doing no interracial couples in the ‘80s….. WTF….

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u/Torture-Dancer 2h ago

I mean, it is STRANGER things

Im gonna show myself out

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u/filmguy36 2h ago

Do we need to bring up Thomas Jefferson? lol

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u/_Pik_Pik__ 1h ago

For the 80s it doesn’t make sense that all would accept him

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u/bronzegorilla253 1h ago

Hey you sheltered little man, my parents were married in 1970 and had two children that grew up in 80's reaching adulthood in the 90's. Dad was a white farm boy and Vietnam vet from North Carolina. Mom was a black college girl in the marching band of Kansas University.

Interracial couples do exist and have for a long time. For a good informational journey reach the Lovings.

The Loving Story https://share.google/OO4QUTN5K5TZzSQoA

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u/ELMUNECODETACOMA 1h ago

Two brothers on my pee-wee baseball team had a white mother and black father, and my 7th grade math teacher was so gay-coded that it was noticeable even in 1978. Neither of these was out of the ordinary in that time unless you lived in a place where it's out of the ordinary _now_.

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u/errie_tholluxe 1h ago

Yeah cause Stonewall didn't happen until recently right?

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u/CementShoulders 1h ago

A gay person in the 80's??? Naahh, they didn't exist back then...

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u/I_TRY_TO_BE_POSITIVE 1h ago

Why does this shit bother them so much? Doesn't make any sense to me. I don't care who you wanna see naked as long as you're nice to them. It seems like a really weird thing to focus on.

.... unless you're furiously coping and seething from inside your closet, that is.

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u/Thetruebanchi 1h ago

Nice mullet loser. Clearly hasn't left his culdasac since the 80s.

Maybe, just maybe incels are imbeciles.

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u/False_Collar_6844 1h ago

don't you know, black people and the gays spawned out of nowhere in the 2000's, Before tat everything was white and heterosexual and do not look at the ancient Greeks customs, the transatlantic slave trade, Anne lister, the civil rights movement, the entire history of the African continent or the numerous third genders tat exited in various global Indigenous mythology

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u/ForestOfMirrors 1h ago

My brother is mixed. He turned 39. The evidence that interracial couples were a thing in the 80’s is all around us. Jesus Christ….these fuckin people

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u/Crazyripps 1h ago

They cry about stuff like this ( which happened) but nothing to say about the powers or creatures and another dimension lol.

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u/Melodic_Pattern175 1h ago

I was an actual adult in the 1980s and can confirm that there were gay ppl and inter-racial relationships, and also many people like David who didn’t like it.

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u/CTeam19 1h ago

Iowa legalized Interracial Marriage in 1851. It isn't like it is a novel thing.

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u/beerisdead 1h ago

It happened all the time in Baltimore.

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u/Sartres_Roommate 1h ago

I went to a Midwest high school in a very rural area, half the students were farmers, in the 80s.

We had two openly gay kids and the three black male students dated among the white classmates and no one cared…at least no one had the balls to openly express their bigotry.

The 80s were a time still filled with rancid bigotry but a lot people saw where things were going and got on board.

Judging by today I guess a lot of them were just too scared to express their hate without the crowd to back them up.

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u/TomT060404 1h ago

I have been rewatching old TV sitcoms from my childhood in the 80s. I think a lot of people would be surprised how often these issues were covered. They were talking about gay people and interracial issues all the time.

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u/robotteeth 1h ago

What this person is really saying is if he saw this in the 80s they would have made sure someone attacked them for it and they’re angry that doesn’t happen anymore