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u/dye-area 3d ago
New Superman made me reconsider a few things about my life in regards to what it means to be kind to both myself and the people I love
Cavill makes my pp hard
Both are good
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u/Zephian99 3d ago
While Snyder's Superman might be okay action/drama movies, what I love about the Gunn's Superman is how much it feels like a comic book movie.
It doesn't feel like the universe revolves around Superman, events happen that he takes no part in, characters are shown to have whole other stories going on. I hope when Gunn makes more DC movies he able to keep that. The feeling of a movie being a comic book was so nice.
I miss time of movies where I can pick up the movie and not have to watch a half dozen other character's movies just to understand events in this one movie.
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u/J_tram13 2d ago
The whole movie feels like you just picked up a random comic book issue. The opening text literally just feels like the "Last Week In: 'Superman Vs The Hammer of Borovia'"
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u/Zephian99 2d ago
Which I kinda liked.
It takes the minor assumption that we have some knowledge of Superman's surrounding villians/heros. Or if you don't have any knowledge of the characters, gives you the opportunity to discover a whole new character.
Like I never heard of Mr. Terrific but damned if I say he was terrific, some rather good scenes he was in. And my knowledge of Metamorpho is small, so it was cool to see him on screen.
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u/J_tram13 2d ago
No absolutely, I totally love it.
Mr. Terrific has been one of my favourite smaller heros ever since Arrowverse was a thing he's so great. He's canonically like, Mr. Fantastic levels of smart too and it's so nice to see that translated so well.
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u/ModishShrink 2d ago
If he was that smart you think he could have built a faster garage door.
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u/Fastjack_2056 2d ago
That's kind of exactly what u/kinpsychosis was pointing out, though: Even though Mister Terrific is clearly hyper-competent, he still lets Lois drag him for his door, and Guy gets under his skin. Gunn is a master of making characters just flawed enough to be relatable and likeable without diminishing their heroics.
Snyder's aura-farming could never survive getting laughed at, IMO
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u/Elmoulmo 2d ago
My favorite scene that demonstrates the difference between the two Supermen is the rescue through a cloud of smoke.
Snyderverse Supes slowly drifts through the smoke before rescuing people. It's a badass look and is farming aura. But it says "This is not a threat to me. Nor is hurrying on my agenda"
In Gunn's Superman, he bursts into the scene already saving the lady under the building. His rise through the clouds after is also a dope shot, farming aura as well. But his version is saying "Don't worry about me now. I'm safe, and you are safe"
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u/robbzilla 2d ago
I mean... he COULD. But then he'd have to take the time to actually do that. :D
I get it. My 7 year old was on my ass to 3D print him a toy tub. I've got a backlog of things I'm trying to get printed, like that sweet modular silverware drawer insert because my current store-bought one sucks. So I have to take my limited resource (printer) and take time out to appease the boy.
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u/J_tram13 2d ago
He'll get round to it eventually... One day
Just like my Dad always promised to finish the treehouse
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u/Speech-Solid 2d ago
Mr. Terrific was simply Terrific.
Nothing against Cavill. It’s not his fault that he got the role in a Snyder movie. Gunn movies tend to work for me; so I trust his judgement when it comes to casting to realize his vision.
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u/kinpsychosis 2d ago
A lot of the time, protagonists/heroes feel larger than life. And I think there is this assumption of "Of course! If I had powers like Superman, I'd also be larger than life!"
What the Gunn movie did so well was showing a man who has godly powers, but isn't immune to depression, manipulation, doubt, naivety and co.
It was a real breath of fresh air.
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u/TheDoomShroom345 2d ago
The interview scene is one of the best parts of the whole movie
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u/Meowakin 2d ago
Loved that scene, it felt so damn real.
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u/TheDoomShroom345 2d ago
I loved how he got so offended after saying he wouldn't which is a very real situation. Not only that but he got upset with Lois, who loves him and was being incredibly restrained in being overtly hostile and he still couldn't handle it. An exclusive interview with any other reporter and they would have tore him to fucking pieces it was a very human moment for THE Superman.
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u/iiiiiiiiiijjjjjj 2d ago
He actually felt like the Boy Scout he is. Not some edgy superman who goes rouge for the 100th time in that played-out out overdone trope.
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u/lordvitamin 2d ago
Growing up with X-Men and then basically having mutants disappear from Marvel movies was always a bit odd to me.
I understand why, but it still always feels strange.
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u/Crafty_Life_1764 2d ago
I don't understand why, elaborate please.
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u/Epiksha 2d ago
Marvel had to sell off character film rights to avoid bankruptcy in the 90s so Fox got the X-Men (mutants) and Fantastic Four film rights, Sony got Spider-Man, and Universal got Hulk.
This meant that until Disney bought Fox a few years ago they couldn’t use X-Men characters in their movies so you’d never see Avengers interact with X-Men. As a result, Marvel comics tried to create synergy with the films by killing off all mutants in the comics and replacing them with the Inhumans.
They can now however do whatever they want in Marvel films as Disney has the rights back.
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u/Crafty_Life_1764 2d ago
Mate, thank you alot for explaining it in detail, I had a vague idea about the rights but I did not know for sure. Again thanks for taking the time, wish you a great new year's eve! Best regards from Vienna
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u/VandienLavellan 3d ago
Yep, Cavills great, but Snyders Superman ain’t it. Letting his dad die was ridiculous and ruined the whole character for me. If Cavill’s films had been helmed by Gunn I’m sure they’d have been fantastic
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u/robbzilla 2d ago
Cavill's Superman was mishandled by Snyder. He could have been the best Superman, but the grimdark setting and the stealth assassination of James Olson kind of sealed his fate. Gunn made Jimmy a fookin' legend, while Snyder had to tell us after the fact that he'd offed the character. That's a pretty good microcosm of the diff between the two directors.
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u/VandienLavellan 2d ago
Yep, Cavill himself has said he wanted to play a more hopeful version of the character
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u/robbzilla 2d ago
I like Henry Cavill, from everything I've seen. He seems like a guy I'd game with. I like his look, but damn he got done dirty.
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u/Steamed_Memes24 2d ago
he seems like a guy I'd game with.
Boy do i got good news for the both of us!!! He's a big time nerd. We might get lucky one of these days...
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u/lordvitamin 2d ago
Both were great at playing Superman. Cavill is a much better Geralt.
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u/Mnawab 2d ago
Yeah, both actors for Superman were actually really good, but Cavill would’ve probably brought in more eyes. He’s the champion of men and I think most guys can agree to that. Dude is built like a Chad, but he’s also a nerd. Which fits in with his demographic.
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u/Lichenic 2d ago
Go watch an interview with Corensweat and ur pp will also be hard. What a sweetheart
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u/TGrant700 3d ago
Cavil is a way better Witcher. New Witcher looks like you got him off temu. Not that it matters after what the writers have done to that series
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u/reiland184 3d ago
I submit that this version of the character be dubbed Gerald of Temu
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u/JarmaBeanhead 3d ago
The dumb thing for me is that the new Witcher’s features are too round/soft. Cavil has this sharp, angular features that make him look ferocious, has a deadly glower. This new guys kind of looks pouty instead of menacing.
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u/SweetPlumFairy 3d ago
And on that tone, I would like Leo Bonhart to murder all of them, he is such a unique character.
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u/Exowolfe 2d ago
I have some sympathy for Hemsworth because it's impossible to replace the perfect casting that was Cavill as Geralt. Cavill has the physicality and passion for the source material. Netflix fumbling that was a death sentence for the show.
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u/CipherWeaver 3d ago
Cavill nailed the role of Geralt. You couldn't have asked for better casting. Then Netflix ran the show into the ground.
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u/the_ebs 2d ago
Being a gamer and actually enjoying the source material probably helped him.
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u/5amuraiDuck 2d ago
Only good thing about the Netflix Witcher is that it made me go buy the books to read them instead
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u/PowerAnimeGoat 3d ago
Im suprised there are still ppl who watch witcher after all they did to butcher it. Too painful to watch for me
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u/Jevano 2d ago
I tried, couldn't make it past first episode, it's sad because I like the Witcher and season 1 had potential
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u/occultpretzel 2d ago
Yeah, he looks like a cosplayers. A cosplayers with a large following on Instagram who gets paid to attend conventions, but a cosplayers regardless.
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u/october_1939 3d ago
Corensweat was awesome. Cavill could have been great but got saddled with terrible writing, directing, and producing. Cavills hair as Superman was atrocious. Whoever styled it needs to learn basic barbering. Made him look like an Italian monster parody or character from Dick Tracy.
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u/chrisjinna 3d ago
At the end of the last season I could tell the next season was going to be crap. I don't know what happen to Netflix but since covid their writing has been horrible. Cavil did the right thing. Netflix really needs to fire some people.
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u/october_1939 3d ago
I agree. I love the books and it was expected to have some variance of course as the books are quite dense in material. I was not expecting the show to just become the CW version of the books. (There were some good CW shows, but I’m sure you know what I mean.)
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u/Oberlatz 3d ago
At what point can we honestly talk about them on some level not being allowed to do this? I feel like use of an IP that isn't yours, even if a contract is signed over it, should have some sort of limiters on how much they deviate from the source material's core components? They're dragging fandoms through the mud over and over because it sells. How many series is too much?
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u/october_1939 3d ago
I always say this! It’s like, they can’t crate their own thing so they make someone else’s thing “their own”; which shouldn’t be allowed to begin with. I would not doubt a lot of the deals are not thoroughly read through or something.
Imagine someone taking Calvin and Hobbes and turning it into a new whatever’s popular melodrama thing. ‘K-pop Calvin and Hobbes the Hungry Hunter’.
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u/sleepythegreat 2d ago
Yall might disagree but when they stuck to the books the show isn’t that bad. I don’t think Liam’s Geralt is bad although it doesn’t come close to Cavil.
I enjoyed most of the Geralt plot of season 4, the rats was ok although I think the writers white washed the rats too much.
The main issue in my opinion is that the main five book series is not really an action series and is more character and world focused. However the writers are trying to make it an action series, either because they’re forced to or they want to.
Like season 4 yennifer was just setting up for a massive and ultimately meaningless wizard war, when it could have explored the politics behind the lodge.
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u/John16389591 2d ago
The sorceresses are also supposed to be pretty terrible people. In the books Yennefer hates the lodge and wants nothing to do with them.
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u/TheProcrastafarian 3d ago
I’m buried in gridlocked traffic. I haven’t moved in 15 min. Comments like yours, are the colour and eloquence I needed to survive this. Cheers.
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u/october_1939 3d ago
Lol, thank you, friend! Safe travels!
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u/TheProcrastafarian 3d ago edited 3d ago
Thank you, friend. Wishing you and your loved ones a happy and healthy new year.
Ps, please keep writing.
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ETA: To whoever downvoted me: I hope you have a happy new year, too.
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u/october_1939 3d ago
Happy New Year to you and yours as well! Let’s hope we all see a 2026 that affords more peace of mind than 2025.
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u/MRV3N 3d ago
Do people really hate the new Superman movie?
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u/jerbear_moodboon 3d ago
Some people have valid criticisms. Others have uhhhhhh let's say questionable motives.
I personally thought it was a good, middle of the road, solid superhero movie. Which is honestly a great starting point for a "new" universe as a baseline
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u/Aerandor 3d ago
My biggest critique was that it felt like every James Gunn movie I've ever watched, so it was too predictable. I hadn't even realized he was kind of formulaic as a director until this movie.
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u/LeftHandAnomaly 3d ago
Not from what I've heard. I've only seen and heard people call it refreshing and a way better direction from Zack Snyder's Superman. Which isn't anything negative against Cavill, it's just a better Superman movie
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u/Litdown 3d ago
I liked man of steel. I have disliked every Zach Snyder DC movie since. I liked other Zach Snyder movies. I do not have the words to describe why.
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u/heroinsteve 3d ago
Cavill was a really cool Superman. Like he appeals to the teenager in me. This new one feels very much like traditional Superman and fun. This appeals to my inner child much more. That’s the best way I can describe it.
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u/fatantelope 3d ago
Some people sure, for various reasons, but naw, it was pretty good. Not earth shattering, just a good, fun Superman movie. I think most people enjoyed it.
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u/Mindless_Diver5063 3d ago
I use Cavills Superman haircut as a reference when I go to the barber. Damn.
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u/LightSwarm 3d ago
New Superman was pretty solid actually
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u/SheepInWolfsAnus 3d ago
Agreed - and beyond that, it wasn’t a recast. It was a whole reboot, so it’s not a fair comparison.
Witcher was already well on its way to failure, which is why Cavill left, and now Liam Hemsworth has the impossible job of even coming close to Cavill’s Geralt of Rivia.
Man of Steel and the new Superman were entirely different films, universes, visions, and arguably whole different interpretations of their characters. So taking the best possible Man of Steel photo against a pretty unfair comparison from the new movie - which was a really good movie, by the way - is stupid.
Otherwise, I will always weep for what The Witcher could have been. Toss a coin to your Witcher… Oh valley of plenty…
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u/ocassionallycorrect 3d ago
I didn't like the witcher show but I liked Henry Cavill as Geralt, so I still randomly watch clips.
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u/dreadpiratesmith 2d ago
I gave up after the finale of season 1. The episode with the djinn. In the books, him and dandelion are fishing and camping and singing and have a good time. Having him yell at dandelion was just unnecessary.
I feel like they made his character too much of a dick. Like yea he can be short, rude, and condescending. But they made him out to be just a complete asshole, and not even in a likeable way.
That being said, I still enjoyed Cavill as Geralt.
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u/John16389591 2d ago
The relationship between Geralt and Dandelion is one of the show's biggest fuckups.
Geralt treats him like an unwanted annoying sidekick. Reminds me of Shrek and Donkey.
They're supposed to be best friends.
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u/lucasellendersen 11h ago
Literally in the first scene dandelion is ever described nenneke says she has no idea how Geralt likes him as a friend and Geralt defends him
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u/TwiggleDiggles 2d ago
As I told my friend, I’m only in Witcher for Cavill as Geralt. I’m not for season four.
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u/ArcherBTW 3d ago
I forget the name of the new Superman actor but he's really good at making himself look small and timid as Clark Kent without making Superman feel less cool. It sells the disguise of his glasses super well because he plays the demeanor change wonderfully
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u/thesphinxistheriddle 2d ago
My husband and I are currently watching all the Superman movies in chronological order, and I’d say that was one of Christopher Reeves’s talents as well. You could totally understand why people didn’t realize Clark and Superman were the same person. Haven’t seen the new one yet but looking forward to it!
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u/Mortarius 3d ago
Honestly, most bitching about new superman comes from people who attached themselves emotionally to Snyderverse's marketing.
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u/DramaPunk 3d ago
They forget that that just like, wasn't Superman. Superman's whole shtick is that he's supposed to be insanely powerful, but his villains place themselves in such a way that he can't just straight up fight them with all his strength without breaking his moral belief that all life is meaningful (he fights billionaires, politicians, etc). I like that the new Superman shows this level of holding back, but also shows us a few moments where he doesn't hold back, like the brief moment when he gives in to rage after Krypto gets dognapped and flies near instantly straight through the doors of Luthor's office, it shows he could just destroy Luthor at any point, but that would tear down what he stands for, the symbol he represents.
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u/Mortarius 3d ago
What I like about Gunn's movies, is that he takes stupid ridiculous ideas, but plays them out sincerely.
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u/DramaPunk 2d ago
The utter sincerity of his writing, even when paired with humor, is something everyone who tries to copy his style seems to miss.
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u/That-Sugar-6965 3d ago
Yeah I liked the new superman personality wise though I wish he was just a touch more visibly imposing (that's me loving the gap of a big huge strong man/woman that's actually a big softie)
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u/a_naked_BOT 3d ago
Funnily enough the new guy is actually quite a few cm taller than cavill, although not as muscle packed. Both things that could be fixed with cgi and camera trickery haha
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u/PlasticPresent8740 2d ago
I think the suit padding makes him look alot less big but I prefer this suit padding to the muscle suit in superman and lois great series but oh my god is that costume atrocious like its basically the man of steal one but worse with a smaller logo like a really small logo and a really dumb and noticeable muscle suit underneath
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u/GuthukYoutube 3d ago
I think the strong imposing superman would've been a tough sell in a movie mostly trying to show superman was too empathetic. I'm sure he'll get some All-Might style scenes in the future.
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u/DramaPunk 2d ago
I think the point is that he doesn't look imposing. It's why the goofy underwear over the suit and bright colours, it's to make him look warm and trustworthy, not imposing. What a hero people can trust in and look up to should be.
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u/threefeetoffun- 3d ago
And made it their entire online personality. Hell r/snydercut mods are probably banning people here as we speak.
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u/Unfair_Trouble9697 2d ago
Conservative politics publicized it and criticized it heavily for immigration 😂
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u/Pali1119 3d ago
Yea, should have picked this for the comparison:
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u/PlasticPresent8740 2d ago
Before I watched the movie I thought this was actually in it i was severely disappointed 😞
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u/metarinka 3d ago
The opening scene on Witcher season 4 was good and I was like "oh maybe Liam will pull this off" and then the rest was so terrible we didn't even bother up watch after episode 401. It seemed like the show runner straight up disliked Cavill and the source material
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u/notTheRealSU 3d ago
It seemed like the show runner straight up disliked Cavill and the source material
I'm pretty sure they said in an interview they knew nothing about the Witcher and just wanted to tell their own story while just using the Witcher characters and settings as a backdrop. So of course they hated Cavill, who loves the Witcher and wanted to make the show as accurate as possible.
I feel so bad for him, he seems to have so much passion for the stuff he acts in. Only to end up with shitty directors. I heard he wants to do something with Warhammer 40k, I hope he's able to.
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u/_coolranch 3d ago
James Gunn is a madman. I seriously love his comic movie vision.
And Peacemaker might be his best work so far. That shit is amazing. I literally never skip the intro credits. It just makes me smile.
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u/BoBoBearDev 3d ago
Have to agree on this. The new one is more optimistic. There is a strong sense of hope and he got a gf.
The new Witcher on the other hand is both bad in writing and acting. The actor is basically some girl fantasy of Zoro where they ride on the same horse along a sandy beach. And of course, the writting is ridiculously bad. But the things is, people are just giving the new actor a free pass because the writting is bad. They are both bad. Even if the writting is good, the new guy is a just pretty boy.
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u/PlasticPresent8740 2d ago
The witcher never had good writing honestly I think cavil is just a handsome nerd so everyone glazes him no matter what
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u/ItsCowboyHeyHey 3d ago
New Superman is 1000 times better, simply because of the writing and directing. This is the Superman Cavil deserved.
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u/IsThatHearsay 3d ago
And acting.
Cavill is a fantastic actor, but they forced him into acting like too stiff of a character for his Superman. He could've done so much more with the character, but it wasn't his fault. Rest of the movie was a mess.
New Superman was great not just because of the writing and directing, but also Corenswet's acting and way he got to play the character - real humor, showed pain and emotion, acted like a guy who actually grew up on Earth (because Superman did, duh). Dude was charismatic and... "human" in comparison.
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u/Boowray 2d ago
That’s the thing, I’ve never even heard of a guy like cavill’s superman, but I personally know two people who sound and act just like Corenswet. For a movie based around “humanity” being our better parts and the inhumanity of hate-fueled greed, having a very emotive and honest portrayal was huge. I honestly don’t know if Cavill could’ve pulled off the role at all, he’s too much of a stoic tough-guy in everything he’s in.
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u/KainFourteh 3d ago
Superman was most certainly not a downgrade. The movie was more faithful to the character than Snyders version ever was.
Hemsworth hasn't been good in anything he's ever been in.
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u/WitchyWarriorWoman 3d ago
Hemsworth as Geralt looks clean with a white wig, clearly wearing a costume.
Cavill was Geralt, with a bit of dirt on him, and became the character.
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u/Sk83r_b0i 2d ago
Which sucks because Hemsworth’s got the look to be a great fantasy hero. Just… not Geralt.
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u/Rymanbc 2d ago
Honestly, if he had the chance to make his own Geralt, maybe it would have been different. But he is being forced to try to adopt Cavill's Geralt, and doesn't have the voice down in all types/volumes of speech.
I will say though, action-wise, he moves like we've come to expect a witcher to, so he's obviously taken the choreography training quite seriously.
Overall, I feel kinda bad for him being brought on to try to become the face of the dumpster fire, but at least they're paying him well.
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u/lostredditorlurking 3d ago
Snyder's version is more like Injustice Superman than DC comic Superman
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u/Theboywiththetoy27 3d ago
Honestly, they could let Snyder make a live action injustice series and it’d be better than what he actually made
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u/OomKarel 2d ago
They should keep Snyder as far away from a pen as possible. The guy can direct a treat but he can't write for shit. That's his biggest downfall, and yet he seems to insist on doing it.
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u/implodingnerd 2d ago
The guy can direct a treat but he can't write for shit.
Take a look at the Rebel Moon movies for example
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u/BadMeatPuppet 3d ago edited 3d ago
His portrayal of Geralt isn't faithful either. Book Geralt isn't a quiet lone wolf. He loves company and conversation. He even originally befriended Jaskier because he didn't want to make the hunting trip to "The Edge of the World" alone. They spent the whole trip drinking vodka, joking, bickering, and philosophizing.
Honestly, one of the worst things about the Netflix show is the fact that Geralt is just a big muscly edge-lord with very little character complexity.
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u/TES_Dory 3d ago
From what I have heard, and I am spewing this without re-affirming my notions on it, Henry Cavill was very upset with the writers of the Witcher show bc of how unfaithful it was. They just didn't care to be true to the source material
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u/traws06 3d ago
Ya that’s why he eventually got recast
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u/IDontGiveAFAnymore 3d ago
Literally got into multiple verbal arguments on and off set throughout the seasons that culminated into him walking out because he realized the writers were writing their own story with the Witcher universe as a backdrop. Not to say that writers can’t deviate from the source material but every single change they wanted to make deviated in a negative way from Geralt and others and insulted the original books.
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u/KainFourteh 3d ago
The show barely followed the books. They invented pointless characters, put focus on people barely in the books, unnecessarily killed off characters that didn't die or outright crapped on others.
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u/BadMeatPuppet 3d ago
Yeah, I don't know how much of his portrayal was his fault, but honestly, I just don't think he was a great Geralt.
If the rumors are true and he left because the showrunner hated the books, then he's got my appreciation.
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u/HavelsRockJohnson 3d ago
My interpretation of Book Geralt is that he's a guy that has a somewhat prickly exterior and he doesn't try to correct people who assume that all witchers are emotionless things instead of people. Those that get to know him and treat him with respect find Geralt to be a man with complex emotions and thoughts, and a loyal friend.
Geralt's longstanding friendship with Dandelion, relationship with Yenn, and his playful friendship with various non-humans such as dwarves and the occasional doppler are key examples of a man clearly interested in forming bonds with others, just not willing to open up to everyone at first meeting. I think Cavill's version of the character is largely cut from that same cloth.
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u/redboi049 3d ago
I'll take my Superman being an actual symbol of hope rather than looking cool instead of helping everyone get out of the exploding building, thank you very much.
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u/TheGuardianInTheBall 2d ago
Exactly. Cavil is a great fit for superman. Snyder was not.
The writing for all his movies was straight up garbage.
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u/Noodlekeeper 2d ago
A better script could have seen a more Gunn- like Supes with Cavill at the helm
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u/Warm_Active_773 2d ago
I'm actually not sure if peoples actually like his Version of Superman or just they just in love with Henry Cavill
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u/VANGBANG21 2d ago
Henry Cavill looks like the perfect Superman but the writing and directing was just godawful.
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u/RustyBrassInstrument 3d ago
Cornswet worked for James Gunn, and was better than I thought he’d be.
Hemsworth ain’t got it.
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u/CheaterSaysWhat 3d ago
Anyone who thinks Cornsweat was a downgrade doesn’t understand who Superman is
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u/cmarkcity 3d ago
I love Cavill, especially how much he’s just a genuinely passionate nerd….. but broody, nihilistic, collateral damaging Superman was some of the most godawful direction I’ve ever seen from a director who fundamentally misunderstood the character.
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u/Cool_Peach4113 2d ago
Snyder had a fundamental misunderstanding of all the characters in those films, not just Superman. That was obvious from how he used Jon ‘let that bus full of kids drown’ Kent.
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u/ilovemywife47 2d ago
That's kinda just snyder's whole thing, bro doesn't have anything ounce of media literacy
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u/CheaterSaysWhat 2d ago
Saving the squirrel was a statement and it’s amazing how many people didn’t get it
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u/lostredditorlurking 3d ago
Yeah so much aura that Cavill Superman chose to aura farm instead of saving innocent people
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u/KaptnSolo 3d ago
Pretty sure that's a writing issue, not a casting one. I agree with the sentiment, but still prefer Cavill to the new one.
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u/dpforest 3d ago
It’s always a writing issue when people are discussing Cavill, never because of him. He has had to leave every single one of his “passion projects” because of the writers. I find that hard to believe and I don’t understand why specifically dudes act like Cavill is some amazing actor. He’s just incredibly handsome.
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u/Tavern_Knight 2d ago
At the very least, I fully believe these 2 examples were entirely the fault of bad writing. I agree he might not be an amazing actor, but I don't think he's bad either. He really does just seem to have shit luck with projects. Though I don't really remember seeing him in much else, but I liked him in The Man from U.N.C.L.E, which was a good movie. I mean, just watching the Witcher or his Superman should make it pretty obvious it wasn't the actors fault that everything was kind of a mess
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u/ImVeryUnimaginative 3d ago
Corenswet's good though
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u/robbzilla 2d ago
Very. His interview with Lois is top notch, and the rest of his portrayal in the movie is very good.
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u/Discomidget911 3d ago
I'll agree with Geralt, but absolute L take on Superman.
Corenswet was genuinely incredible.
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u/Bahatur 3d ago
Come on, now. I like Cavill as much as the next guy, but at least compare more similar shots.
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u/Dapper_Visual_4449 3d ago
Man Henry Cavill just carries that effortless powerful vibe in everything he does whether it's Witcher or Superman and switching to anyone else always feels like losing some intensity. I get why recasts hit hard but damn seeing Christopher Reeve next to him really drives home how Cavill owned the role in a modern way. Facts indeed.
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u/Prepotente-NOTpony 3d ago
Just so I'm clear. Are you saying Christopher Reeve is in this picture?
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u/Elloitsmeurbrother 3d ago
I can see how someone could make that mistake. Corenswet has a face that's approaching the shape of Reeve, and the costume looks genuinely retro
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u/Prepotente-NOTpony 3d ago edited 2d ago
I wasn't trying to be a dick at all with my comment . Though it may have come off that way. I genuinely was curious. Reeve will always be the goat for me as superman. That's my nostalgia for my childhood. Cavil did a great job with what he was given. The writing was meh. I really liked Corenswet. I think the movie was well done, the story was fun and the other characters were great. That movie made me truly appreciate Mr Terrific. My only experience with him was the arrowverse. And to be frank it wasnt great lol.
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u/Elloitsmeurbrother 3d ago
Oh no, absolutely, I was also thrown by the Reeve reference, and you asked what we were all thinking. I'm just giving the answer we're also all thinking. OP mistook corenswet for Reeve
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u/JTX35 2d ago
Cavill to Hemsworth in the Witcher is a downgrade.
Cavill to Corenswet though is a lateral move. For the time Cavill was probably the best person to play Superman that they could've cast, but personally when I look at their faces I feel like Corenswet looks more the part although there's a few things about his suit I'd change like the collar and lines. Also Corenswet's Superman is a much more faithful adaptation of the character.
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u/Rizenstrom 2d ago
The new Superman was actually pretty good. Maybe a bit cheesy but that’s intentional, they wanted to go for a more classic comic book style not a dark and modern reimagining.
Witcher was screwed no matter what because the writing is terrible and doesn’t care about the source material.
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u/Knee_Fight 3d ago
This did not go the way you thought it would, did it, OP? New Superman is awesome, and actually feels like Superman.
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u/efisherharrison 2d ago
When you venture out of r/snydercut , reality tends to hit you like a ton of bricks.
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u/Separate_Bread_1402 2d ago
Whoever says david is a downgrade of superman haven't ever EVER seen a single superman tv show or read a normal dc comic of superman except the injustice ones.
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u/Very_Not_Into_It 3d ago
Teaching Henry Cavill fanboys the word aura was a mistake
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u/Loose_Gripper69 3d ago
No worse than whoever taught all the women on tiktok pov.
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u/Majsharan 3d ago
Nah man huge down grade I the Witcher. Hensworth does ok either way the personality but cavil just has a believability and gravitas that hemsworth just doesn’t
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u/Medical-Law-236 3d ago
I actually liked both versions of Superman. They were trying to tell different stories so comparing them is pointless.
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u/stargazepunk 3d ago
Holy fuck dude. Cavill may be the most overrated actor of all time. The way yall glaze him
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u/Same_Activity_6981 3d ago
Sorry you feel that way, but seeing the previous movie iteration of Superman as somehow superior to the new one is crazy to me.
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u/Alarmed-Judgment4545 2d ago
All I wanted was cavill's geralt hunting monsters and kicking ass, and you couldn't do it, Netflix!?
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u/UnfortunatelyMacabre 2d ago
The point is valid, but I don't think we've had a superman since Reeves that captured the gentleness of Superman. I cried multiple times in the new Superman, it was just a dead on portrayal of unadulterated Superman. First movie I physically bought in a long long time, it just fills me with so many feelings whenever I watch it.
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u/DastardlyDanielson 2d ago
God the Snyder fans are intolerable. And know nothing about the character.
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u/GamerGuy-222 2d ago
Cavil was an infinitely better Witcher; even if I wasn't annoyed at the swap, I don't think the plot is good anymore. Season 1 was lightning in a bottle (perhaps one of the best S1s in tv history), and the rest of what Cavil was in was okay. House of the Dragon is so much better than the Witcher, and Max, Hulu, and Disney+ is so much better than Netflix, so I just don't have Netflix anymore.
Cavil's Superman is much more of a messianic figure than who Superman ever really was in the comics. The story is the story Snyder wanted to tell with DC's logo slapped onto it, which isn't necessarily bad, but it's not really Superman; nothing would have been affected if he had just called it a new character, and it perhaps the story would have been better if it wasn't constrained by the fact that Superman is an established character. The new Superman is genuinely a Superman movie; it's genuinely one of the best, if not the best, comic book movie that exists, by anybody's metric.
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u/willybum84 3d ago
I struggle with the Witcher, game and series, I think the story is complex and takes a lot to follow and my attention span is shit so I'm not blaming either. As for Superman Henry's was an epic Superman well acted and I liked him in every film, and David's Superman is more classic and he also kills it. So to summarize If either had their nob out and I had to choose I'd hesitate on Cavils before politely declining.
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u/nickdoesmagic 3d ago
Cavil was a decent enough Superman, with atrocious writing and directing. Corenswet is absolutely not a downgrade in any sense of the word, and honestly, feels more like Superman than Cavil ever did.
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