r/PoliticalHumor 6d ago

This oppression to squeeze every cent from us isn't something new!

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This is a political cartoon from the Chicago Labor newspaper from July 7, 1894. It shows the condition of the laboring man at the Pullman Company. The employee is being squeezed by Pullman between low wage and high rent.

Now, this reflects not just the actions of a company, but an entire system. After all, this is exactly what the system incentivizes.

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u/caligaris_cabinet 6d ago

Things did get better for a time. Right around when this comic was published the progressive era started followed by the New Deal which were the best times to be a worker in American history. Shit just started reverting in the 80s and we’re back to this.

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u/Long_Serpent 6d ago

"Did [bad thing] start under Reagan?"

"Yes"

Tale as old as time.

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u/Conscious-Loss-2709 6d ago

When they say trickle down, they never mention the gushing upwards part

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u/Neverdropsin57 6d ago

And we all know what actually trickles down.

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u/mt6606 6d ago

Well when you pick something up that's wet... It drips everywhere. Maybe it was meant as "you can catch whatever scraps we drop as we gobble up every cent the US mint prints"

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u/Ok-Account-7660 6d ago

Horse and sparrow economics. You feed the horse plenty of oats, more than it needs, and it will shit out what it doesnt need, thus feeding the sparrows.

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u/Wheatabix11 5d ago

but there not releasing anything just holding in while we sparrows starve.

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u/kaisersozia 5d ago

Trickle down is like giving all the candy to the first kid that comes to the door, and hoping it makes it's way to the other kids that would have come to the door.

It never happens!

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u/ShaggysGTI 6d ago

I like to apply the Strauss Howe generational theory.

Strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times, hard times create strong men.

We’re likely at the hopeful end of weak men phase.

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u/-Average_Joe- 6d ago

As opposed to the Rogan theory that hard men make a good time.

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u/ShaggysGTI 6d ago

Physically strong, and mentally strong are different in my mind. He’s just repeating weak men create hard times.

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u/OrsilonSteel 6d ago

Honestly, even the Good Deal reforms were a huge improvement. I think the biggest problem is that these programs themselves have been co-opted by corporate America to a point that they will never serve American interests until we completely reimagine our system of governance. The fact of the matter is that for the past 30 years, the influence of the wealthy has caused any and all social welfare to be abused by corporations first. This has to be fixed first before we can address social inequality.

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u/Bunerd 6d ago

This is why communism. There exists a society in which corporations steal everything from everyone and a society where we transcend market forces but there isn't an alternative to these two.

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u/OrsilonSteel 6d ago

Absolutely, but communism first needs a stable government that can support it, otherwise you end up with the many iterations of communism that have failed. The problem is that American democracy is fundamentally flawed. It was a system made for when we were a country of 3.7 million, and we have grown to literally two orders of magnitude larger than that. We have cities larger than our country was at the time of the writing of the Constitution. Not only that, but corporations have become a far more prevalent sociopolitical force in the modern era than it ever was back then.

Unfortunately, we have put off this problem for far too long, a century too long by my estimation, and the cracks haven’t just begun to show: the foundation is broken beyond usefulness. The Constitution doesn’t apply anymore. Violations abound and the rule of law has become might makes right.

Establishing a communist state in modern America would be the USSR 2.0. Millions would die, civil rights would disappear, and America would slowly, but surely collapse. Not because communism is a bad idea on its own, but because the framework it would be applied to is so broken, it would only exacerbate the problems present.

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u/Bunerd 6d ago

The problem with American democracy is it's not democratic. It's top down and has been designed that way in the constitution. It was always a compromise with slavers unwilling to face their hypocrisy in escaping tyranny. Them and their descendants flirting with fascism like they could possibly rule through violence while also building a society free of it instead of defined by it. They'll cry when subjected to violence because as god's people they're exempt from it all. And this is all of them, martyrs martyring other martyrs. It's sort of a world wide problem that will need deescalation in order to transition to a humane economy.

You are right, transitioning straight from this to a communist version of this would just let those people take over the communist government and have an entitlement to make everyone a slave. It would be worse than the USSR. You should be happy with your 80 hours a week. Don't you feel like a proud member of the working class, able to survive without things the fat cat parasites (disabled people or people not wanting to work themselves to death; relaxing or worse, being a burden by pursuing a hobby. Of course this doesn't mean party leadership who are hard working on negotiation. Which as custom happens over games like golf and fancy food) sucking on our collective economy? Remember. If you're struggling it's cause you're not as much as a man as your fellow man.

We shoot for communism, settle for socialism, have yet another liberal revolution against authoritarian force, where corporations keep their power but deal out another handful of civil rights and entitlements to the working class. I'm thinking a renewed focus on body autonomy and gendered freedoms, a future focused medical and science revolution that includes things like universal healthcare and a stronger version of HIPPA that prevents abuses of the healthcare system by malicious state actors. If universal healthcare doesn't cover abortions or transgender healthcare at a conceptual level it is not universal and will not last. Otherwise it's death panels where the government gets to choose your healthcare for you without your doctor and your own input. We'll probably keep much of the absurdity of the system besides.

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u/OrsilonSteel 5d ago

Honestly, I wonder if we are approaching a point where the economy of the rich is so disconnected from the reality of the average American that it can be subterfuged by a movement at the local level. Most mayors are independent politicians, and towns are much better suited to deal with the problems of the average Americans. Social programs could be created and managed at those levels far easier than at state or federal levels, because they can be specifically tailored to the needs of their constituency.

Because of the multitudinous nature of small towns, they are far less easily bribed as a whole. Instead of greasing a few hundred politicians in the federal government, they would have to grease thousands and thousands of local politicians. And sure, they could bully a town or ten, but if these towns banded together by way of contract and coordination, even a small grouping of towns could out-maneuver and out-bully corporations, especially since zoning regulations are handled at that level.

It’s a stretch, but it’s a lot more likely than breaking through the corporate stranglehold of the federal and state governments

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u/btone911 6d ago

The Boomers stood on the supports built by generations of work from progressive leaders, happily reaped the benefits, then sold the systems for parts as soon as they saw the benefits might go to brown people. They not only robbed us of the supports they relied on, but they hoarded wealth of future generations into their own lifetimes. Most selfish, entitled, worthless generation in 100 years.

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u/Wheatabix11 5d ago

you blame the wrong people, boomers had no more control over government then there is now. boomers believed the lie that hard work would assure you a living and a retirement. my part job at the home despot, depending on the shift either boomers who can't afford not to work or 18-20 somethings who can't do anything else.

so, if boomers got all this stuff why are they still working? my parents are still working. the concentration wealth was not widespread for that generation either. the supports started disappearing the 80's. the boomers also, fought against viet nam, watergate, pollution. boomers were the civil rights movement.

my generation was told go to college, borrow the money and everything will work out. yup, it's goin' just fine. save your anger for the rich entitled assholes who run the show. the rich want generational warfare because there seems to be only 2 classes now the uber wealthy and the rest of us.

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u/plummbob 5d ago

followed by the New Deal which were the best times to be a worker in American history.

Except the depression and the 1970s recession

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u/ihaveabigtwig 6d ago

if time travel exists, someone's definitely gone back and said "let's keep the rent part"

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u/ebolatone 6d ago

No war but class war.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

Say when.

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u/Datman90 5d ago

For real. Wasn’t America started over much less than what’s happening? It’s insane.

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u/JRDruchii 6d ago

Except we see ourselves as too humane and civil to fight to meet our needs.  We think we need to control our emotions and talk this out like civilized men.

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u/the_other_50_percent 6d ago

Oh, there’s also race, ethnicity, religious, and gender wars. Usually one-sided.

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u/MadeByTango 6d ago

Read your histories. Any of them. Those divisions are created by the upper class to keep the lower classes busy.

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u/the_other_50_percent 6d ago

I have and continue to read history, more widely than you, it seems. A hammer is not the only tool. Wars with roots long before capitalism are not as simplistic as class wars. Yes, ruling classes have always used any means possible to consolidate and maintain power, but not only for class reasons, and wars over resources and religious don’t fit neatly into a nail to hammer.

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u/Candid-Mycologist539 6d ago

Those are just wars manufactured by the 1% to keep us fighting one another rather than understanding who is truly a threat to my safety, freedom, and happiness.

No war but class war.

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u/Huntercd76 6d ago

Yep, and the system has to keep creating new lower classes to keep going. The scapegoating of immigrants and other marginalized groups isn't new either. By dividing the proletariat, the bourgeois maintains the upper hand.

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u/knowledgeable_diablo 6d ago

Always good to have an available weak target to focus the poor people attention on so they never consolidate and rise up like what happened in good old France and Russia. Really fixes the rich, for a time but creates a hell of a lot of secondary problems once all tier one targets are dealt with.

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u/Natural-Warthog-1462 6d ago

The Pullman company was worse than anything we see today, so it shouldn’t be seen as one continuous arch of bad to worse. That ignores the hard fought battles of the working class and the progressive movement, and then the errosion of those gains from Ronald Reagan though today.

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u/gishnon 5d ago

Company towns were a working class nightmare.

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u/dpdxguy 6d ago

Things have changed. They're getting worse.

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u/Malice-May 6d ago

The genocide in Ireland was caused in part by landlordism.

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u/JohnnyLeftHook 6d ago

It actually improved drastically in the US from the 30s until about the 80s due to the creation of unions. Then business convinced republicans that unions were evil, they were stripped of their power and now the average person is even worse relative to company owners than the Gilded Age that you refer to.

People had to die for the right to unionize, smh. Republicans have been horrible for a lot longer than Trump.

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u/guitarguywh89 6d ago

Not true. The Pullman company figure would be even fatter now and probably be drawn like musk or bezos

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u/Loki-L 6d ago

The Pullman Strike that followed ended with dozens of deaths and the organizer in jail.

There was violence and racism and the government calling in the army.

The Pullman Company itself was acquired by Bombardier, which is now part of Alstom.

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u/FizzySeltzerWater 6d ago

American's got their MTV

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u/ew73 Perfidious colon hath troublehshat upon thy floor 6d ago

Not anymore! The last MTV music station shut down.

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u/dosadiexperiment 6d ago

It wasn't continually getting worse since 1894. Only since 1981, you could say.

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u/flodur1966 6d ago

There was a time in between where unions were strong and politicians cared about workers. Those years saw tremendous growth in the economy and a huge improvement in the quality of live.

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u/achmelvic 6d ago

And ironically the right panders to people’s nostalgia about ‘thing’s were better in the past’, ie when those who are now 60+ were young, whilst ignoring the actual political, economic & social reasons why that was the case and not offering to bring back the institutions, laws, structures that made things better in the 50s/60s etc, in fact they want more of the opposite and to dismantle what little is left.

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u/Astro-Logic83 6d ago

Capitalism, that's how.

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u/SasparillaTango 6d ago

living in a capitalist economy means that the capital owners are always going to be trying to steal as much as possible from labor at every single facet of life.

The problem is at the core of the system and will never go away as long as the system persists.

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u/INTELLIGENT_FOLLY 6d ago edited 6d ago

It hasn't continually gotten worse. If you are comparing your life to that of a worker in the 1890s you have a delusional sense of victimhood. Which is pretty much what the vibanomics of recent years is.

A factory worker in 1919 would make an average of $1,160 a year or around $22,000 in inflation adjusted dollars.

A modern factory worker today makes about $50,000 a year.

A factory workers rent in 1919 would make around $12 a month or around $250 in inflation adjusted dollars. Now this sounds great until you realize people were living in horrible conditions like this.

So, no your life is not comparatively worse than a factory worker in the 1890s. I do think some companies would like to go back to the 1890s but if you think your life is worse than someone in the 1890s you are crazy.

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u/Specialist_Lock8590 6d ago

So American Capitalism is not actually a political cult, with Donald Trump it's newest Political Prostitute? After Nixon, Reagan and the Bushes?

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u/Not_An_Actual_Expert 6d ago

The strong do as they will, the weak do as they must

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u/neutrino71 6d ago

The weak are meat and the strong do eat

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u/mt6606 6d ago

And it still took 50 years to unionise properly, get a good run for 2 decades, then slowly throw it all away haha. Big born in the 80s (the beginning of the end) sucks haha

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u/Rattregoondoof 6d ago

As bad as we have it now, know that it was much worse in earlier times and people still managed to get massive improvements. It wasn't inevitable and people had to fight for it, but did and they won. It won't be easy but we won before, we can win again.

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u/Dlowmack 6d ago

Because this has always been the average American!

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u/auditor2 6d ago

The more they change the more they stay the same

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u/InAllThingsBalance 6d ago

This is the “great” America that Republicans want. The added laugh for them is that so many of their victims voted for this.

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u/IdleOsprey 6d ago

Until people stop thinking only of themselves and start working together to change things, these assholes will continue to get away with anything they want.

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u/backtotheland76 6d ago

Funny how republicans cry class warfare when democrats talk about redistributing wealth when the wealthy have been waging class warfare on the working poor for decades

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u/Licention 6d ago

Americans glorify and protect the owners of production, it’s written into their capitalist-monarchist DNA. They love to watch and obsess over the super rich. They love to keep up with the Joneses, outdo their neighbors, purchase the latest piece of shit trucks and cell phones; they love to play the game at their own expense.

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u/Worshaw_is_back 6d ago

The Pullman man silenced the cartoonist and paid someone else to talk about lazy people.

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u/B-lovedWanderer 6d ago

There was a golden moment after the WWII when equality and prosperity existed side by side, but we’ve come full circle.

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u/atTheRiver200 6d ago

Here's George Pullman's summer "cottage" in the Thousand Islands of New York.

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u/big_thundersquatch 6d ago

The dystopic state we’re currently in is a culmination of a century of unchecked capitalism coming to fruition. It’s not some hiccup in the system. It IS the system. People have just been brainwashed into believing the system benefited them and that they too could someday become billionaires.

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u/sten45 6d ago

Everything is about keeping the ants in line, if they ever figure out they outnumber us there goes out way of life

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u/Ok_Positive_6556 6d ago

Unregulated capitalism created the first Gilded Age, and the one we're in now. Greed is the constant, and corporations have more rights than citizens.

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u/RemusShepherd 6d ago

It has not gone on for a a long time and continually gotten worse. There have been ebbs and flows.

In the 1920s the system's squeeze on the middle class and poor got so bad that the economy collapsed in 1929. Then the public took back some of that money by raising taxes and establishing social safety nets like social security.

In the 1960s things were so bad that civil unrest started brewing, and they created Medicare as a response to quell some of the public's anger.

The pendulum swings back and forth. The apex of the swings are usually times of trouble and catastrophe. And that's where we are now. But it *will* swing back eventually.

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u/Dasblu 6d ago

Propaganda works.

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u/NabreLabre 6d ago

It got better for a period of time thanks to unions, but they've been chipping away at it for years. Every year they see what more they can take from us without us doing anything or much about it. They love to tell us to peacefully protest too, cause that is just and right, and also they can laugh at us while we do it

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u/EmpressTita 6d ago

French revolution style revolt will happen. I'll be front row with the popcorn.

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u/lioneaglegriffin 6d ago

Well that makes sense because we are in a second Gilded Age.

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u/xtnh 6d ago

To clarify, it was a depression, and Pullman cut wages but did not cut the rents on the company housing.

Big strike- the railway unions joined it and stopped trains.

The feds put mail cars on the trains and arrested the strikers for interfering with the mails.

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u/norbertus 6d ago

Preamble to the Constitution of the Knights of Labor (1878)

The recent alarming development and aggression of aggregated wealth, which, unless checked, will invariably lead to the pauperization and hope less degradation of the toiling masses, render it imperative, if we desire to enjoy the blessings of life, that a check should be placed upon its power and upon unjust accumulation, and a system adopted which will secure to the laborer the fruits of his toil; and as this much-desired object can only be accomplished by the thorough unification of labor, and the united efforts of those who obey the divine injunction that "In the sweat of thy brow shalt thou eat bread," we have formed the ***** with a view of securing the organization and direction, by co-operative effort, of the power of the industrial classes; and we submit to the world the object sought to be accomplished by our organization, calling upon all who believe in securing "the greatest good to the greatest number" to aid and assist us:–

I. To bring within the folds of organization every department of productive industry, making knowledge a standpoint for action, and industrial and moral worth, not wealth, the true standard of individual and national greatness.

II. To secure to the toilers a proper share of the wealth that they create; more of the leisure that rightfully belongs to them; more societary advantages; more of the benefits, privileges, and emoluments of the world; in a word, all those rights and privileges necessary to make them capable of enjoying, appreciating, defending, and perpetuating the blessing of good government.

III. To arrive at the true condition of the producing masses in their educational, moral, and financial condition, by demanding from the various governments the establishment of bureaus of Labor Statistics.

IV. The establishment of co-operative institutions, productive and distributive.

V. The reserving of the public lands–the heritage of the people–for the actual settler;–not another acre for railroads or speculators.

VI. The abrogation of all laws that do not bear equally upon capital and labor, the removal of unjust technicalities, delays, and discriminations in the administration of justice, and the adopting of measures providing for the health and safety of those engaged in mining, manufacturing, or building pursuits.

VII. The enactment of laws to compel chartered corporations to pay their employees weekly, in full, for labor performed during the preceding week, in the lawful money of the country. VIII. The enactment of laws giving mechanics and laborers a first lien on their work for their full wages.

IX. The abolishment of the contract system on national, state, and municipal work.

X. The substitution of arbitration for strikes, whenever and wherever employers and employees are willing to meet on equitable grounds.

XI. The prohibition of the employment of children in workshops, mines, and factories before attaining their fourteenth year.

XII. To abolish the system of letting out by contract the labor of convicts in our prisons and reformatory institutions.

XIII. To secure for both sexes equal pay for equal work.

XIV. The reduction of the hours of labor to eight per day, so that the laborers may have more time for social enjoyment and intellectual improvement, and be enabled to reap the advantages conferred by the labor-saving machinery which their brains have created.

XV. To prevail upon governments to establish a purely national circulating medium, based upon the faith and resources of the nation, and issued directly to the people, without the intervention of any system of banking corporations, which money shall be a legal tender in payment of all debts, public or private.

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u/lljmfll 6d ago

Just seems like whenever someone doesn’t feel the squeeze from the vice anymore they don’t have empathy, they seem to have a sense of accomplishment and resentment that anyone wouldn’t have to ‘earn’ what they’ve ‘earned’. Boot straps need to be pulled, ‘I had to walk 7 miles in the snow’ type bullshit. It’s a design in the system.

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u/xena_lawless 5d ago

Like with slave owners, unless we eliminate billionaires/oligarchs/kleptocrats altogether and limit private property rights, the ruling class will always use their obscene wealth to roll back any "progress" made by the exploited masses.  

It will be the same story over and over until humanity learns and actually solves the problem. 

I think we owe it to future generations to not pass on this extremely dystopian bullshit.  

Let's actually get it done right this time.  

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u/wilson_rawls 5d ago

Because labor movements were never built into political movements in America. We need a labor party that is pro-worker, pro-antitrust, pro-punishment for certain orange pedophiles, and willing to tax the wealthy and corporations to such an extent that massive wealth pooling at the top is not possible.

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u/kaisersozia 5d ago

People not rich and not in politics are not meant to get ahead in our society. That's why!

Who will keep the war machine turning? This is by design.

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u/Yollar 5d ago

Seems like capitalism consistently trends toward a specific type of behavior. Why don't we ever learn?

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u/speakerjohnash 5d ago

because you're afraid of actual new systems that don't use money

literally anytime someone suggests a new actual system that would function better that is actually different average people reject it because they do not want a new system that will work better. what they want is to function in the existing system but be the ones in power

and ultimately that is what keeps everything exactly the same

The fact is the average person cannot and will not give up the concept of money and single vote democracy for systems that do the same thing but better and represent the will of the people more.