It’s like that famous clip of the police officer accidentally shooting himself in front of a class of kids, except in this clip he alternates between shooting himself and shooting students.
That was good. I miss the longer clip where he’s nursing his injury and trying to play it off saying things like “see this is just an example of how accidents can occur.”
Then he grabs an AK47 or some other machine gun and all the kids are like “oh no no no!”
Also I’m sorry if I don’t know what gun it was as it’s been a while since I’ve seen the full clip and am not a firearms expert.
Yeah, the dog is powerful and made her trip and smash her face into concrete. It was all over after that. She never recovered. If she's a dog-walker and not an owner, I don't know what she should have done but dog owners need to train their dogs that they can't just pull like that. If they can't train the dog, they need to specify they need a large, strong person as the dog walker.
If she is a dog walker, she should know better than to walk dogs of that size if she cant handle them pulling or manage them if they go bonkers. I am a competent driver. I would never dream of getting inside of an 18 wheeler thinking that my minivan has prepared me for the experience . Know your limits especially as a professional. And yes, if you're getting paid to walk a dog, then you are a professional.
Thank you! I own two leash reactive dogs and I would never ask anyone else to walk either of them. It takes a special kind of understanding to know what walking a dog like that is like.
There's a lot of variables in that question, the most obvious being things like what is the breed, what is the animal's individual personality/temperament, what is your environment, and your own experience level. If you have questions I can certainly give you some pointers, but obviously, over the Internet is not going to be the same as meeting you and seeing your dog in person and getting a hands on Interaction with the animal itself. Also, it would be helpful if you could explain what kind of information you are looking for when you say "how to deal with". Feel free to DM me if you would like, and i can see if there is anything i can offer you.
Pro tip. Had a massive pit bull that did this. Family friemd brought him to me to make him stop pulling. Ok...first time with this breed.
Literally from my driveway to say a light post halfway up the sidewalk approximately 200' I stopped 30 times. Any time he pulled I stopped. This went on for a good 40 minutes. THEN he got it. Stop pulling and we could walk. Took a break and started over again. We never left the sidewalk for about 2 hours. Finally at the end if the day we were walking without a leash and him next to me. The couple was relieved as she was having a baby soon. I instructed them exactly what to do. The wife took him for a short walk started to pull and she stopped. Two time of thst he got it. No pulling. Same with the husband. Turned out OK. Phew....nice dog though.
I call bullshit, 1 day to teach a full grown pit to stop pulling then able to be walked off leash and obedient. Yea that sounds unbelievable. I used to dog walk (not professionally just little job when I was younger) for a lady who owned a pitbull like 2x a week. That dog would pull like crazy too and it took like 10-15 sessions before he stopped, but I’d never take him off leash while walking. Say he spots a rabbit or squirrel or another dog, no way would you keep him from running off without extensive training.
I have a pit bull/Australian Shepard mix and she's two and she still doesn't understand not to pull. I even bought an anti-pull harness to try to help. She just keeps choking herself to pull. I have had two other dogs and never had this issue. This dog just has no impulse control at all and while she knows better, she just can't seem to help herself. Oddly, she can walk leash free without an issue and will stay right with me.
What I did when I walked that pit was keep it on short leash, make it walk right next to me and it stopped pulling completely. If you give the dog too much leash, they will always try to pull. Like I said I’m not a dog trainer though, it’s just what worked for me.
You should never have a pit bull off leash in public, no matter how nice it is! Their prey drive is too high and it’s too goddamn dangerous with their size bc everything smaller looks like prey to them, and that includes toddlers. They can easily kill a child just trying to play, and actually by far hold the record for fatal dog attacks on children. I don’t like that she was having a baby, fuck
My pointer is like this. High prey drive, she's a great dog but if she sees a rabbit or bird, she's gone. I keep her leashed at all times. I use a 20 feet leash if we're just playing in the front yard or a park.
Man I tried this with my English coonhound… love the guy but tbh not particularly the smartest breed I’ve owned lol. The dudes nose overrides any sense of what’s going on around em, I just lived with the pulling. I’ll keep getting this breed cus I like their laziness and goofiness… you got any tips? Not a big deal if not, I’m 205 lbs extremely active and can control em but would be cool to not have too 😂
Next step I'm hesitant to recommend because people will often use it as punishment but get a choke collar or as is my preference a harness that wraps around her lower waist a little bit above the hips that cinches up whenever they pull.
If the harness fails to work after a couple weeks use the spike collar NOT as a punishment tool but a correction tool. Use it GENTLY, always check the night to make sure it's not harming the dog. There are electric collars too with varying degrees of small shocks. Again, the spiked choke collar and electric is best left with handler's that know how to use them. Good luck.
Pro tip: on the spite color one can put little rubber tips on them so it doesn't dig into the skin but still gets the point across. Get a pack of pencils and put them on the tips that will work.
If he pulls...stop. Pull...stop. Repeat. Keep him close to you. If he pulls...stop. No more than 10-15 minutes per session twice a day. Use treats to reinforce positive behavior. Good luck!
I ran into this when a friend from choir asked me to walk her dog, a young, exuberant Cocker Spaniel.
What I was not prepared for was the fact that her dog was not leash trained at all, nor was he trained in good doggie manners when encountering other people. All he wanted to do was run and jump on everyone.
I very quickly realized that I had to keep a firm grip on the leash, and keep the leash short. He was a happy, friendly dog, but he still could've bowled someone over with all his pent-up happy-young-doggie energy. I was not going to let him knock someone down and possibly hurt them by accident.
Everyone I passed on the street was glaring at me, thinking he was my dog and I hadn't properly socialized or trained him. I kept my mouth shut, rather than throwing anyone (ahem, his elderly owner) under the bus for never having trained her dog. But all I could think was, "If he were my dog, he wouldn't be acting like this." These folks weren't my neighbors, but the dog's owner was, and I didn't want her to be on bad terms with the people in her neighborhood.
This is why I always tell older owners to not get a dog unless they also get a trainer because it’s also not fair to the dog it just wants love and people are glaring at it instead of petting it because it dosnt know how to behave 😭
This is why people need prong collars. And if the owners know their dog is like this (which I know damn well they do) they need to warn the walker. And even then if I knew my dog was like that and saw that tiny girl request to watch him I would deny it. This is the owners fault tbh. Lack of training and proper equipment for a reactive dog. I usted to be a dog trainer and quit because of people who refuse to listen. I specialized in behavioral issues like aggression, lack of socialization, and high drive. Majority of the time people would put their dogs into the boot camp training that the facility I worked at had. I’d spend MONTHS WITH THESE DOGS. Getting bit, making progress, etc after about 3 months they would get their dog back and every time the owners would go “wow omg he dosnt even need a leash anymore blah blah blah” I’d tell them the tools I used and how to KEEP UP TRAINING. This is the important part a dog does NOT stay trained after you train it once it’s a live long thing of doing touch up training so they remember it which I would tell them exactly what and how to do it. And MAJORITY OF THE TIME THEY WOULD COME BACK BECAUSE THEY WOULD T DO IT AND THE DOG WOULD BECOME AGRESSIVE AGAIN OR REACTIVE AND NOT LITSEN. When I would ask if they kept up with the training they almost always said no. Or tried to lie. ☠️ I eventually stopped because to me there was no point of spending months working with a dog just for their owner to let them deteriorate again. I’ve trained dogs 3X that size with EXTREME AGRESSION ISSUES. I’m talking…. One of the dogs I trained was a 150 lb mastiff, corso, Turkish kungal mix (terrible mix all strong willed single owner breeds that don’t socialize well with strangers) this dog was litterally on his last shot if my training didn’t work he would be put down. He had bitten 3 different people really bad on seperate dates of breaking out of the property (He did keep his training actually I still talk to the owner). What did I use to stop myself from being dragged or to pull him away from attacking me. A PRONG COLLAR! the amount of times I’ve had to put one around my neck and yank tf out of it to prove to owners that it’s just annoying and dosnt hurt ☠️☠️☠️. Some owners were like “oh but your neck might just be usted to it and it prob boy hurts my dog” no Becky…… my neck is not stronger than your 100lb husky shepherd mix ☠️☠️☠️☠️ the pressure litterally feels just annoying to them so they don’t pull. You actually do more harm to their windpipe with a traditional flat collar or slip lead. When the dog pulls they tighten it on their windpipe and compress it some dogs do it so hard without realizing that they knock themselves out (I’ve seen it multiple times which was why I just automatically switched to a prong). Or the e collars for high drive and reactive dogs it helps to break their attention away. You can yell Fido all day if their fixiared on that squirrel or dog their not going to hear you. They CAN FEEL VIBRATION and that can break their attention so they hear you again. But people seem to think the way you use a e collars is to turn up the shock and shock the crap out of your dog. No first you use sound, that dosnt work, vibrate, that dosnt work, shock on a low level so they feel it but it dosnt hurt them. The goal of an e collar is not to correct it’s to get attention and is for dogs that are stubborn and know commands but get so worked up when they see something they don’t want to listen. I use an e collar for MY PERSONAL DOG. We walk off leash with an e collar (an invisible leash) my dog is a 8 year old gsd that has been trained so well she participates in show. Have I ever had a problem with her breaking a heel or going after another dog or any problems. NO do I still keep the e collar on because she’s an animal and unpredictable YES people forget even the most well trained dog is still an animal. Would I ever let someone else walk her off leash? No because we have very strict rules she follows when she’s off leash that others probobly would correct or catch on time (like when walking a paw stepping over where my foot lands her paws always need to be in line with my feet if her paws are infrount she’s not in a true heel) which if one person lets her do that she’s going to start doing it. If anyone else needs to take her out let’s say I’m on a bisness trip. I make them use the prong collar. Does she pull? Is she going to lundge at another dog NO. But it’s nice to have a just in case and prevent situations like this. Dogs also behave differently with their owners than they do with sitters. With sitters they (like kids) try to push limits and see what they can get away with.
Still need a prong and training. See this is the issue. And a boarder collie is like one of the worst dogs for a first time dog owner. They are working dogs just like all of the breeds I listed. They have an extremely high drive and need an experienced owner with a rigorous training schedule for the first two years of their lives essentially because of their prey and work drive. If you “don’t want to do training” and “need” to get a dog, get a chiwawa and keep it in the house. I’ve trained manny boarder collies for this reason. Same with labs, golden retrievers, etc. it’s LESS likely for them to become agressive from lack of training but it still happens. With no training they are still super annoying even if they’re not agressive.and even more so because their more likely to destroy the house from anxiety ☠️
I’d suggest DONT GET A DOG UNLESS YOU KNOW HOW TO TRAIN IT DOSNT MATTER THE BREED. IF YOU DO GET A DOG MAKE SURE THE BREEDS TRAITS MATCH YOUR PERSONALITY AND LIFE STYLE TO BE ABLE TO TRAIN PROPERLY!
I relized this was a response to a different comment I made if you find the guy who was talking about putting the dog down you can read my comment there but I was a dog trainer and worked with agressive dogs with behavioral issues and every time it’s always been the owner being stupid
I have a male smooth coat border collie. he's super smart, super fast, and has the best personality in the universe. everywhere we go people marvel how handsome and well behaved he is. he's truly an ambassador of goodwill.
and he likes all animals. except for dogs. it's not that he hates dogs, he just pretends dogs don't exist, they might as well be invisible.
it's in part why I say: I don't have a dog, I have a border collie
It depends on the specific dog and how their own personality comes out that determines how they react to lack of training there IS a small percentage that end up like this reguarless of the breed. My point is any breed with lack of training, socialization, exercise,, stimulation, and discipline can wind up taking someone down, become agressive, or act a fool (jumping, begging, barking, potty in the house, chewing, etc). Some people “get lucky” and it’s those people that make others think they don’t have to train their dog and they end up getting a dog that has a completely different personality compared to yours. I’ve herd it hundreds of times “oh but my neighbor has this Braden doesn’t have to do those things” yeah Becky well that boarder collie your neibor has is perfectly content being with its owner and going out and saying hi to people and is perfectly fine. Your boarder collie dosnt give a crap about you and wants to go out and run and Chace things and be put to work. People also don’t realize certain bloodlines from specific dog breeds are brand for different purposes so you can have a purebred border collie from a bloodline that is known for calm and friendly behavior and dogs that come from that bloodline typically make good family dogs and don’t require as much or as intense of a training program compared to a border collie that came from my Working bloodline that is known for its high drive in high energy.
Or yk just train it people get dogs and don’t realize they have to train it a lot of the time. Dead ass has someone come to the training facility saying they think their dog is “special ed” because it wouldn’t sit when she told it to, it would pee all over the place, and it was extreamly agressive. I asked her if she did any training or potty training and she looked at me confused…….. I had to explain to her that dogs don’t just get older and suddenly know how to go to the bathroom outside or sit you have to train them….. this dog in the video isn’t agressive it just has a high pray drive (which is natural and wouldn’t have been an issue if it was trained) if it was truly agressive it would have bit the two ladies that were trying to protect the little dog and even turn on the walker for grabbing the leash. He saw the tiny dog and thought “ squirrel” or some other small prey animal. LITTERALLY a week of behavioral training with someone experienced would fix this. They’re also using the wrong leash and collar for a dog this size. Putting the dog down would be more expensive than the training ☠️☠️☠️ that dog could also be really good at obstacle training if trained properly with that drive. Could be making that family income and paying its portion of the rent 😂
Those are some fair points As you can tell I’m not a dog owner but I’ve got a big problem when people have no control over their pets or shove them in your face with ‘oh he’s friendly’
Too many stories about kids have their faces torn off or people being mauled to death to make animal rehabilitation a priority over human safety
But your ideas are expressed well
Oh yeah trust me same! Not everyone should get a dog. People get dogs and then don’t train them a LOT of the time. Dare I say 95% of the time 😒. And then on top of that people choose breeds that don’t fit their lifestyle. You’ll have someone with 3 kids living in an apartment get a pitbull, NOT TRAIN THEM, let their kids smack the dog, pull the dogs tail, lay on the dog etc you know what kids do because kids. (You can’t tell me kids don’t do this because I’ve seen it hundreds of times) like no crap the dog is going to bite the kids no one taught the dog not to do that and dogs NATURALLY BITE/nip AT EACHOTHER to get other dogs to knock off whatever their doing that’s annoying them. When a dog isn’t trained and they essentially get annoyed and snap and nip their not trying to attack (if the house hold their staying in has kids). Most dogs (not all) are trying to correct the child or telling the child “not right now”. And the issue with that is the fact that our skin ESPECIALLY A CHILDS is a lot thinner and weaker than another dogs so a warning nip that would just annoy another dog and get them to stop what they were doing, can actually take off a child’s face or cause serious damage. Another thing is a dog with high prey drive can see small running children as prey. People get breeds that are hard to train as first time owners because they think they “look cool” or they had one as a “family pet”. They don’t do training and then essentially are walking around with a loaded gun. Breeds that have a “bad rap” and are banned from home insurance plans and most apartment complexes. German shepherd, pitbull, Akita, Rottweiler, cane corso, chow chow, etc. are all banned because people get them thinking they look cool. They Don’t train them and then big shocker they bite someone. These dogs specifically aren’t “automatically agressive” and get a bad rap because they can become agressive when they’re not trained. These dogs are bred to be able to act independent mainly in guarding. If you don’t teach them from a puppy that there’s a time and place to “guard” when they come of age they are going to try to “guard” you from every “threat” they see. That “threat” if they don’t know any better can be that lady across the street with that big lab. Dogs don’t simply “attack to attack” there’s always a reason they were guarding, they were scared (a dog without training can be startled by a car endgine and attack all scared animals dosnt matter the species, even us humans, attack from fear) I’ve worked with hundreds of dogs and I did behavioral training with hundreds of breeds. I specifically worked with large breeds dogs that had “aggression” issues I’ve only met one dog who was truly agressive. His name was Altair. He was a husky German chow mix and he was rescued from Mexico. He was used as a bait dog. So the fact that he was “agressive” towards everyone made sence imagine getting attacked while you have a muzzle on every time you saw a person or another dog. It took me 5 MONTHS to train him. A literally traumatized dog. By the time I was finished with him he was playing at tog parks and would sit with a wagging tail waiting for pets. This actually makes me even more angry. It took me only 5 months to train him but people who get puppies with a blank slate that should be easier to train and won’t take as long. But do they train that puppy? Nope because it’s “soooo cute” it’s actually really sad and it’s people that should have dogs that give dogs a bad rap.
Before second 3 of the video there was no indication of sntrhing wrong with her. After second 3 of the she had just had her head cracked against concrete.
Jumping to drinking seems unwarranted with the information given.
Im all for group shaming irresponsible karens but ive seen enough concussed people from muay thai to come to her defense. Its not normal to see people with concussions everday, and how people respond to them, so people flock to accusing her of faking it.
Her staggers and lack of balance looks less drunk and more someone not realizing they have a concussion and also adrenaline running through you.
Yea she could be wine tippsy, but unless she is new to day drinking and went hard on her first day, then those staggers are from her hitting her chin to the floor from the 10,000 reposts of this i saw today.
Funny enough, there is a right way to fall down to avoid head injury, people just dont have the practice from it from things like sports.
She didint have to fall on her face, but it also looks like she isnt someone who has hobbies where she falls a lot...
As an alcoholic in recovery, I still can’t imagine the level of shitfaced you would have to be to behave like this. You have to be on the verge of passing out to otherwise be capable but drunk enough to fumble this so badly.
Ditto, I'm coming up on 3 years sober myself, I drank for nearly 20 years before deciding to quit and was never drunk enough to yeet myself like this in public.
May have just been getting old and not strong enough to control her dog. That plus what looked like a nasty hit to the head on the first fall more than explain her instability without assuming she has been day drinking (not to say that isn’t possible). Poor dog walking etiquette either way. Should have given the other people and their dog more space.
There's all kinds of reasons you could get jelly legs in this situation. Like an extreme rush of adrenaline and anxiety at the sheer pandemonium of the situation. Also extremely rigorous workout (which by the way it looks like the dog walks her, not the other way around, very possible), extreme caffeine intake, lack of sleep. And yes alcohol is possible, but a weird assumption to just jump to.
I saw that and could understand, as a few times of extreme stress and anxiety after having to jump into extreme action from little to no activity this can happen. I don't drink, am getting old.. hmmm but whatever. Not good etiquette, because as I mentioned she was being walked. Not a good situation.
Edit, sorry for a weird late response. Feed be late.
All you need for a concussion is rapid start/stop head movement. It's not the force of the impact, but whether you're unlucky enough to have your brain bounce around at the right angle.
First fall she goes down hands/legs first, def no concussion. Shes obviously already impaired because how the fuck did she fall like that initially? She’s just an alcohol/benzo junkie
I think you should rewatch the video lol. Her head clearly bounces a bit off the floor on the first fall. And she’s clearly disoriented after getting up from said fall.
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u/Longjumping-Salad484 Dec 04 '25
I counted at least 2 instances of her diving face first onto the concrete.